Dating a Gem "1912"

Discussion in 'Safety Razors' started by rmcintyre84, Nov 18, 2013.

  1. rmcintyre84

    rmcintyre84 Got out of the kitchen

    Is there any way to date a Gem "1912" razor? I picked one up this weekend, and it cleaned up quite well. There doesn't seem to be any info on it that would allow me to determine the year it was made. I appreciate your help.
     
  2. offroad64

    offroad64 a shoulder to cry on

    Gem junior "1912" from 1912 till late 20's. That's about as close as you can get.
     
  3. HoosierTrooper

    HoosierTrooper Steve-less in Indiana

    ASR didn't date code their razors like Gillette did, but their handles, and sometimes the wording that is stamped on them, can be used to place them in a general time frame. A picture or two would help.
     
  4. richgem

    richgem suffering from chronic clicker hand cramps

    Well, I guess if you're into Extreme Cougars, candy and flowers is a place to start. But, liquor is quicker. :innocent
     
  5. offroad64

    offroad64 a shoulder to cry on

    That's right folks he is here all week:happy097:
     
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  6. rmcintyre84

    rmcintyre84 Got out of the kitchen

    I'm glad someone saw the humor! I almost titled the thread, "Dating a Gem . . . 1912 (Get It?)." "Extreme cougars" . . . funny.
     
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  7. rmcintyre84

    rmcintyre84 Got out of the kitchen

    Here's a few photos.

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  8. HoosierTrooper

    HoosierTrooper Steve-less in Indiana

    That handle started showing up in catalogs around 1927 or so.
     
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  9. rmcintyre84

    rmcintyre84 Got out of the kitchen

    Thanks Tom.
     
  10. rmcintyre84

    rmcintyre84 Got out of the kitchen

    From what I can find on the net, the 1912 was made into the 40's. I've also seen people writing about different variations, esp. the "Jr." Any idea which version mine might be?
     
  11. swarden43

    swarden43 "It's your shave. Enjoy it your way."©

    The "Jr" will have "Junior" stamped right onto the razor.
     
  12. 178-bplatoon

    178-bplatoon Well-Known Member

    If you'd ever like to try your "1912" Gem or EverReady with a DE handle for a change of weight and/or length you can use a 10/32 set screw as a "double male" to make the handle/head connection...This won't work on a Damaskene 1912 as the thread size is different...:)
     
  13. Bird Lives

    Bird Lives Future Root Beer King of Turkey

  14. HoosierTrooper

    HoosierTrooper Steve-less in Indiana

    The first model to use the Junior wording was the 1906 Gem Junior, and it is believed that it was used to designate the models that used the new wafer style, rib back blade instead of the previously used wedge blade. I have no idea why they started calling some of the 1912 style razors "Junior" well into the 20's, 30's and maybe even the 40's when all of the SE's being sold by then used the modern style blade. I have identical 1912's that some say Junior and others don't.

    The center and right one are identical except for the finish, one's a Junior the other isn't. The Junior on the left has a different handle and the thumb tab is smooth instead of indented, but the rest of the frame is identical to the other two. No rhyme or reason why they called some Juniors.

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    The 1912's like yours were sold in various sets that were priced based on how fancy the case was, and what came with it such as blade holders, etc. Some had smaller frames and handles but they are all basically the same razor.
     
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  15. rmcintyre84

    rmcintyre84 Got out of the kitchen

    Thanks for the input, everyone. I think I'm enjoying learning new facts and history as much as I'm enjoying learning a new way to shave.
     
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  16. rmcintyre84

    rmcintyre84 Got out of the kitchen

  17. richgem

    richgem suffering from chronic clicker hand cramps

    All the cool kids show up there at least once in a while. ;)
     
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  18. Bird Lives

    Bird Lives Future Root Beer King of Turkey

    ;) By all means...welcome to the party....and I believe Rich is spot on on this one....The Single Edge Parallel Shaving Universe is simply too cool for school....
     
  19. richgem

    richgem suffering from chronic clicker hand cramps

    I have to revise my original suggestions. I'm told that expensive jewelry is the way to go these days. <sigh>
     
  20. Bird Lives

    Bird Lives Future Root Beer King of Turkey

    You mean it takes some Gems to date a Gem ?? ...With all the smooth talkers around here....I wouldn't think that would be nessesary....:happy097:
     

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