Another point of view... Not to get into a political/social/moral foray, but... First, I think Ken is right and Johan did not intend his post to be in any way an affront on Jason. I'm pretty new here, but the folks who are moderators and "regulars" of the forum are among the nicest, most helpful,and thoughtful "forumites" I have encountered! That being said, I work directly with animals (wildlife), as many of you know. I am not a member of PETA, and I feel it is only logical and sane for us all to look at the "big picture" before getting emotional about our individual beliefs and attempting to impose them on others. So...in an effort to appease all parties and their respective points of view...AND to provide our beloved members of the Armed Forces REAL-WORLD type training: Why not use the perfect "high-tech human simulators" (quote from the FOXNews article) to provide realistic training in gunshot wound care? That would be any number of inmates on Death Row presently (after having exhausted their rights of appeal). They could be randomly selected and told: "Tomorrow is your day! Survivors will be executed." Just my $0.02, YMMV, IMHO, etc...etc... --Morrie
Jason, my apologies, but I don't think Johan intended it to be an insult. I read it more along the lines of, people in general, not specifically you....
Yeah.. I can see that to a point.. but he did quote the quote in your post which was attributed to another person. I think that MM was referring to that portion of the post which was obviously not your words. I am sure MM will be around soon to clear things up.
I know what you mean. I tossed this one out, because I personally found it interesting. I had no idea such things happened, and I wanted to hear what the consensus would be from others. I must admit... I had a little cringe when I submitted the thread .
I can understand that, as his second sentence is definitely a general statement about his experiences overall. His first sentence, however, (at least to me) is... or at least can be construed as... very specific and not painted with such a broad brush. But I'll admit I could be completely off base here. And getting back on topic... Morrie, I think you're 100% right on with your logical conclusion. After sufficient animal testing, the next step is testing on humans.
I apologize if you took it as a personal insult, it wasn't intended as such. I quoted your quote and commented on that. I agree that animal testing serve a purpose, but I also believe it's something that shouldn't be abused (Maybe I'm throwing logs on the fire but animal testing of cosmetics is something I regard as questionable ). And yeah, I hug a tree every once in a while... It was not directed towards any specific person [on this forum] at all. It was a general figure of speech. If I was refering to anyone it was to the idiots that beat up my 16 year old son last saturday. The time difference unfortunately made "soon" "later"
:agelic13 And Morrie ! I like your thinking. Joe Arpaio is looking for a few good men.....hopefully his cause will spread to CA someday ot