DECember 2017 30 Day Rule/Focus Pix & Discussion

Discussion in 'Shave School' started by NCoxSTL, Nov 30, 2017.

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What would you like to find in your stocking this Christmas?

  1. A decadent Gillette Toggle or other rare vintage DE

    6 vote(s)
    15.8%
  2. A decadent mint condition SE razor from the early 20th century

    3 vote(s)
    7.9%
  3. A decadent vintage straight razor, restored to perfection.

    8 vote(s)
    21.1%
  4. A puck or two of your favorite decadent soap or cream

    8 vote(s)
    21.1%
  5. A luxurious and decadent High Mountain Badger brush (or your favorite type)

    9 vote(s)
    23.7%
  6. A plate of decadent cookies.

    12 vote(s)
    31.6%
  7. Anything besides a lump of coal. Because coal isn't decadent. It's just depressing.

    21 vote(s)
    55.3%
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  1. LOOT

    LOOT Well-Known Member

    Good observations, Neal.

    Differences are minor. The Toggle aides in rinsing between passes. Releasing the tension allows the doors to open partway. I never use that function. I've not had issues with them clogging, but I can see where that would be an idea worth exploring during design/testing. I like the additional weight but don't see it adding a whole lot to the shave, it just feels more substantial in the hand.

    I consider the toggle itself a no-go grip area. So it does, in effect, have a short handle feel. I usually grab Toggles closer to the head as a result.

    For me, Toggles just have that 2nd kind of coolness. I have 4 different combinations of the Toggle/FatBoy evolution. While I have my preferences, the performance differences are negligible.
     
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  2. wchnu

    wchnu Duck Season!

    Beautiful brush!
     
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  3. clint64

    clint64 Blind Squirrel

    Wonderful photos and lineups Gentlemen. It's always nice to follow what others are using in their SOTD.
     
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  4. Douglas Carey

    Douglas Carey Wildman

    Good setup and photograph Jason. :happy088:
     
  5. wchnu

    wchnu Duck Season!

    So with the Fatboy and Toggles...the biggest part of what is special is that they are a Fatboy or Toggle? I mean they are not that different head wise then other razors of the era? Or are they ?
     
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  6. Drygulch

    Drygulch Snowballs

    It is. I am looking forward to trying it out, but don’t think I will keep it long term. We will see though.
     
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  7. NCoxSTL

    NCoxSTL AAACK!

    The simple answer is......you, sir, are correct. They aren't some revolutionary head design that we hadn't seen before. Gillette was making TTO razors long before these two came along, just without the ability to adjust. (See: Aristocrat, and others) So it comes down to their ability to adjust to different users, or different setups for users, and then whether or not it's a toggle mechanism to open the doors or a knob that turns. The Toggle gets its "super special" reputation, actually, because it failed. If consumers had preferred the toggle mechanism, Fatboys would be selling for $750 instead of the Toggle.
     
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  8. NCoxSTL

    NCoxSTL AAACK!

    If you decide not to keep it I know of a good home where it would be loved and hugged and it would be called George!

     
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  9. Norcalnewb

    Norcalnewb Magnanimous Moos

    Beautiful picture, Charlie!
    Nice picture, Brian! I really like the combination of colors.
    Great perspective on your picture!
    Great picture, Jason!
     
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  10. wchnu

    wchnu Duck Season!

    Thanks for the reply! They are still veddy cool I agree. I love reading your post about things.
     
  11. Norcalnewb

    Norcalnewb Magnanimous Moos

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    DECember 18 SOTD:

    PAA Atomic Rocket Brush
    Stirling Glacial Wintergreen
    Igor by @twhite
    Stirling Unscented PSB
    Osage Rub
    Chatillon Lux Unconditional Surrender

    My last shave with Igor, and he is going out with a bang. Two passes for a DFS. The Glacial Wintergreen was cold as was the Osage Rub. A little Chatillon Lux for some terrific face feel, and my day was off to a quick start.

    I took the day off, but still went to the gym, dropped the kids off at school, and just got done helping my wife at the Christmas charity she runs in our area. Tomorrow, I get to go to work to get a little rest. I hope everyone has a great day!
     
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  12. wchnu

    wchnu Duck Season!

    I may have missed it but which blade did you use? SS or CS?
     
  13. wchnu

    wchnu Duck Season!

    It's a good day down South.
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  14. LOOT

    LOOT Well-Known Member

    Good stuff.

    I think they are just marvelous mechanisms. It is fun, to me, to be able to see the differences/similarities in essentially the same design. In 1958, Gillette released a Red Dot Fatboy (D1), Standard Toggle (D1), and the final production FatBoy (D3). In 1960, they released the Chrome Toggle (F4) for Christmas. These 4 razors share 3 different adjustment approaches and 2 different tray access designs (TTO/Toggle). The Chrome Toggle adjustment tray is different than the D1 Fatboy/Toggle.

    FWIW, CAP tells me the Chrome Toggle was the better design. I can't recall specifics but he preferred it.

    In the span of 9 months in 1958 Gillette put out some pretty cool adjustable razor designs. The $1.95 FatBoy shaves darned near identically to the $10.00 Toggle. One is just a little more DEcadent, to my eye.
     
  15. wchnu

    wchnu Duck Season!

    Another great explanation. Boys toys. I guess it never changes.
     
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  16. Screwtape

    Screwtape A Shaving Butterfly

    So basically the Gillette Toggle is the Ford Edsel of the razor world -- a decent design that flopped because it wasn't what the consumers wanted so it's rare today.
     
  17. NCoxSTL

    NCoxSTL AAACK!

    It's Monday. So it's time.

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  18. Linuxguile

    Linuxguile dating an unusual aristocrat

    25 pages to make it to this morning! :shocked029:
    Awesome setup, John!
    Great photo, Clint!
    Fantastic photo Charlie! Love the B&W and the grain!
    Very nice, Brian!
    Amazing red dot!
    Awesome shot, Jason!
    I hope you get some rest tomorrow, Jim!:p
     
  19. NCoxSTL

    NCoxSTL AAACK!

    Yep. There you go.
     
  20. Norcalnewb

    Norcalnewb Magnanimous Moos

    It should be a slow day tomorrow, so I certainly won't have as much physical activity. ;)
     
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