Corona Virus

Discussion in 'The Chatterbox' started by Robert1955, Jan 31, 2020.

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  1. Robert1955

    Robert1955 Well-Known Member

    One of many little things come to my mind every so on, today it is the virus and the jump from whatever animal it came from, the earth has been around a long time, been through a lot of changes from cave dwellers to rocket scientists, apart from sars, swine flu and mars and now covid19...these are the only virus to jump ship into humans, it would seem 2000 years ago everything was ok, even 1000 years ago it was ok, so in this relatively short space of time, mere decades, 4 viruses have crossed into humans, THAT does sound strange, and every one has been stronger and more dangerous...I am not and never will be a conspiracy theorist, but I wish someone knew the numbers on this occuring in such a short space of time, I think 3 ? Of them came from China....what kinda odds on that ?, is there really something being held back from us, well most likely there is, but the gov's hope to sort this mess out before they tell us (in 500 years time ).
    It is a very very strange time to be living in, and I just hope we all make it through this ok.
     
  2. jmudrick

    jmudrick Type A Man

    I agree that adding debt is not a solution. Not sure why you presume what you do.



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  3. gorgo2

    gorgo2 geezerhood

    There's talk of small businesses already shutting down, possibly permanently, because Congress delayed the stimulus.
     
  4. Jim99

    Jim99 Gold Water Shaver

    Just my opinion, but we shouldn’t count on government of any type to swoop in and save us. They simply don’t have the smarts to figure it out, and the citizens pay for it one way or another.

    I do feel sorry for all of the small business owners out there. Not only do they lose their jobs, but they also lose all of their hard earned cash they sunk into building the business. When this is over, I know that I’ll be shopping locally to support the local owners.
     
  5. gorgo2

    gorgo2 geezerhood

    You're not supposed to quarantine the healthy. As the experts themselves said, there's lots of people carrying and spreading it who show no signs with, what, about 1% getting sick and most of them recovering? Those are pretty good rates for a plague.

    The longer this universal quarantine stretches out, the longer the time frame for people catching it who would have been exposed and come down with it earlier. It's actually going to take longer this way.

    Meanwhile, the machinery we ALL depend on continues to wind down to a stop.
     
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  6. jmudrick

    jmudrick Type A Man

    Yes you will have to do massive testing to identify those who have obtained immunity and get them back in the workforce. We're nowhere close to that capability at this point -- even the sick don't get tested -- and opening things up prematurely will certainly only make things worse down the line. Having it take longer is what is necessary given limited hospital capability to treat the seriously ill.

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  7. Queen of Blades

    Queen of Blades Mistress of Mischief Staff Member

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    A whole lot of them are already in the workforce.
     
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  8. jmudrick

    jmudrick Type A Man

    And....? Missing your point. A lot of infected asymptomatic individuals are also in the workforce untested. Texas , for example, a state of almost 30 million people, has done 10,000 tests in total. That's not what you want.

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  9. gorgo2

    gorgo2 geezerhood

    Yep.
     
  10. gorgo2

    gorgo2 geezerhood

    Like she said, they were already there. We need to get back to work and we don't need to wait on testing to green light it. If people are going to come down with it, they're going to come down with it. If they're not, they're not.

    BTW...we're in first place with around 35 ICU beds per 100k people, with Germany in 2nd with 29. UK is a distant 8th with 6.
     
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  11. jmudrick

    jmudrick Type A Man

    Those beds are not evenly distributed, nor is the virus. And since the US has no intergated national public health system, rationalizing distribution of health resources is proving to be a nightmare and things are just getting started.

    I think you're nuts.

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  12. MileMarker60

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    My assumption comes from the belief that the government isn't going to give grants to every small business. As history has shown, it will most likely come in the form of a Federal Small Business Loan
     
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  13. gorgo2

    gorgo2 geezerhood

    oh.

    oh.
     
  14. jmudrick

    jmudrick Type A Man

    Senate bill includes forgivable loans up to $10 million.

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  15. gorgo2

    gorgo2 geezerhood

  16. Queen of Blades

    Queen of Blades Mistress of Mischief Staff Member

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    This is not Facebook. Please treat everyone with respect.

    Got a link to the bill?
     
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    gorgo2 geezerhood

  18. MileMarker60

    MileMarker60 Member

    The only thing I've read about is the "$367 billion loan program for small businesses".
    Not saying that your 10 million forgivable loan isn't in there, I just haven't read anything about it.
     
  19. jmudrick

    jmudrick Type A Man

    Death rate is a function not only of the inherent lethality of the disease but also of the ability of the health system to treat it. The vast difference (3x) in rates between say Korea and Lombardy probably reflects this. Rather obviously when you run out of ventilators your death rate goes up among those whose survival requires them.

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  20. jmudrick

    jmudrick Type A Man

    It's in there but nothing is passed yet.

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