Farewell to Mitchell's Wool Fat (MWF reformulation)

Discussion in 'Shave Soaps' started by PLANofMAN, May 24, 2023.

  1. PLANofMAN

    PLANofMAN Eccentric Razor Collector Staff Member

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    I don't normally spend that much either, but for my favorite low cost soap? Yep. All the alternative soaps that equal its performance are $40+.

    Spend money now to save money later, yes?
     
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  2. Primotenore

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    "Vintage" MWF is being bought up faster than Bitcoin. :happy097:
     
  3. Heljestrand23

    Heljestrand23 Well-Known Member

    No joke, I'm 8 pucks deep. I did the same with Williams(18) pucks and Crabtree and Evelyn (10) pucks. lol
     
  4. Lancre

    Lancre Well-Known Member

    I'm 9 pucks deep. I did the same with Williams(30) pucks.
     
  5. PLANofMAN

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    Not a bad investment, considering the (I think, unjustified) price of modern Williams on eBay.

    I'm 23 pucks deep on MWF.

    My only response to why I went so deep is because I haven't found a soap at that price point that delivers both a rich, thick, lather and also provides a high level of slickness. There's other soaps that do it, just not at that price point.
     
  6. Lancre

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    That's pretty much my view of WMS. It was the first shaving soap I tried, and between my natural brilliance and the tons of good advice I received from others, I fell in love with it and mastered it before I found out I was supposed to hate it.

    Also, it was carried in my local grocery chain (Wegman's) at $0.99/puck. When it was discontinued I hit the nearest 6 stores and bought them out.
     
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  7. brit

    brit in a box

    i used modern williams since 2004 with a cheap wilkinson brush and mach 3 carts.got a great lather from it ,far better than canned goo imo.:)
     
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  8. Primotenore

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    You must be planning on shaving until you are 110 years old. ;)
     
  9. PLANofMAN

    PLANofMAN Eccentric Razor Collector Staff Member

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    I estimate I normally get around 6-9 months from a puck. So if I use it exclusively, at minimum, it would be an 11 1/2 year supply. I'm 42 now.
     
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  10. Primotenore

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    Got a Sawbuck on that claim! :happy097:
     
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  11. chevyguy

    chevyguy Well-Known Member

    Unless my creams, and soaps go rancid, or mold I think I'm good to go for the rest of my shaving career

    Clayton

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  12. Primotenore

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    I am no angel when it comes to accumulating product, for which there is no doubt, I will never use. :scared003:
     
  13. PLANofMAN

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    Better to have it and not need it, than to need it and not have it, right?

    I have no intention of using it solely, though it is a soap I regularly use at least 3 times a week.
     
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  14. Primotenore

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    You should consider a 3017, Ryan. I happen to know of a thread on TSD. Personally, I have 3017'd 3 pucks of MWF. Disclaimer, I 3017'd them in various stages of their remaining weight.
    We'll coach you through a puck of MWF. :happy088:
     
  15. PLANofMAN

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    I've gone through at least two pucks of MWF, using them exclusively. I think I've done the same with a B&M puck and one SV puck. I tend to stick with something for a while before I change it up. In total, I think I've used about five pucks of MWF before this reformulation, and I'm a firm believer that MWF performs best when used regularly, so once a puck is going it gets used frequently.
     
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  16. chevyguy

    chevyguy Well-Known Member

    Just like Williams, keep it hydrated by use and it work's great

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  17. PLANofMAN

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    Kent is now out of tallow pucks, so the cheap and easy source of MWF has now dried up.

    The last couple hundred were from batch 2375, which must be 25 years old at this point. They must have been very well packed and stored, before being forgotten somewhere in Kent's storeroom(s). My brother-in-law says they smell just as strong as his other Kent pucks.
     
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  18. PLANofMAN

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    ...and Kent added more pucks. I don't know where they keep finding them.
     
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  19. PLANofMAN

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    I've been doing quite a bit of research into this, and I'm curious as to why you think so? It's said to be a low risk/low harm ingredient.

    Let's get the nasty stuff out of the way first.
    It's made by combining formaldehyde and sodium cyanide. Which are both carcinogens, but the final product is not a carcinogen, and never breaks down into one. Some animal studies have found Tetrasodium EDTA have reproductive effects, however, only at very high doses--because it's able to bind with metals, high doses are thought to pull zinc out of the body, causing deficiency and thus illness. This is not a risk when used in cosmetic items and only shows fetal reproductive effects at levels that are outwardly toxic to the mother.

    Now the better stuff.

    It helps to prevent the formation of mold, yeast, or bacteria in the soap. This acts as a preservative both in dry storage and while the soap is being used.

    It binds to hard water ions, such as magnesium, iron, and calcium, softening the water used to make lather, this increases and improves the lather, and also prevents the formation of soap scum.

    It acts as a skin penetrant, helping other products in the soap penetrate the skin, like lanolin. It is important to note that while it assists other elements of the soap to penetrate deeply into the skin, it doesn't do so itself.

    As long as you aren't eating the stuff, it doesn't seem to be so bad, and for the things it does, it doesn't seem to be an easily replaceable all-in-one ingredient, without negatively affecting the soap in some way.
     
  20. Enrico

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    Well the short of it (I'm not a big writer).

    If I use it in any form I react badly; ulcers and other skin lesions.

    "As long as you aren't eating the stuff"

    Manufacturer are putting it in more foods than you'd realize. For just a start look at your mayonnaise and 90% of you salad dressings / salad oils.

    It is being put in hand soaps, laundry soaps, hand and body lotions, shampoos, sun protection and the list goes on.

    It is very unnecessary prior to the 2000's its use was negligible then through the roof. I've never had bar soap go bad; now it's in nearly all bar soaps. And before you say "not in my hand soap ..... it goes by multiple name.

    Quite simply it is very easy to be over exposed to it when it's in so many products. Every liquid soap you come in contact with in the public contains it.

    I make my own laundry soap to avoid it, only use spray sun protection, and purchase hand soaps that don't contain it and bring it with me to work so I can avoid the soap containing it at work.

    I enjoy Stirling Soap co. due that they don't use it. Nivea is also a nice product.

    :)
     

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