Noobe advice

Discussion in 'Safety Razors' started by colekingx, Aug 28, 2023.

  1. colekingx

    colekingx New Member

    What is the difference between a standard DE and an open comb DE?
     
  2. richgem

    richgem suffering from chronic clicker hand cramps

    With a closed comb or standard DE, the part that supports the blade ends in a solid bar-like edge. With an open comb, this part looks like the teeth of a comb. Open comb razors tend to be more aggressive than standard or closed bar but not necessarily so in every case. And open comb razors tend to do a better job if you have a heavy or thick beard. But again, not necessarily so in every case.

    And.... Welcome to TSD!
     
  3. swarden43

    swarden43 "It's your shave. Enjoy it your way."©

    Welcome!
    The key words in Rich's post, "...not necessarily so in every case."
     
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  4. chazt

    chazt Methuselah Shaver

    Open comb
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    Solid bar
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  5. Troy M

    Troy M Prep: Mephitis mephitis musk

    The shaves I get from an open comb razor tend to stay smooth longer. I generally shave every other day when using an OC. The shaves I get from my solid bar razors typically aren't as close, but when I use them I tend to shave every day. In my opinion, both are wins!
     
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  6. chazt

    chazt Methuselah Shaver

    Agreed. An interesting similarity in the various designs of both open comb and solid bar designs is the varying degrees of efficiency from model to model. It’s one of the many things that add to the enjoyment of my shaves.
     
  7. colekingx

    colekingx New Member

    I can tell this is a cool forum and i appreciate you all
     
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  8. Primotenore

    Primotenore missed opera tunity

    Article Team
    I believe the theory behind the OC is that the stubble isn't "flattened" against the skin. (I could be all wet).
    OC's also don't wipe away as much lather before the blade makes contact with the stubble.
    I have some aggressive open combs and others that are pussy cats. IMO, it's the blade gap, not the safety bar that determines the level of aggressiveness and/or "blade feel".
    BTW, welcome to TSD.
     
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  9. PLANofMAN

    PLANofMAN Eccentric Razor Collector Staff Member

    Moderator Article Team
    This. ^^^

    There is no aggression difference between the two types. An open comb razor won't "choke" when shaving multiple days worth of growth. A bar guard razor is more suitable for daily shaving, and can tend to get clogged if it's used on 3+ days of growth.

    The bar guard is less susceptible to damage if dropped on a corner of the razor.
     
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  10. WhyAreYouMe

    WhyAreYouMe Active Member

    There are also closed combs...
     
  11. swarden43

    swarden43 "It's your shave. Enjoy it your way."©

    Those have been mentioned as the bar guard.
     
  12. ShaversRUs

    ShaversRUs Well-Known Member

    I used to call them closed-combs, but that terminology seemed to draw ire from some. Now I try to say "safety bar".

    Now -- there are safety bars that are smooth, some that are serated, some that are scalloped, etc.

    But ---
    If you are a cap-rider, does the type of bar really matter? Or, if you're careful, does the gap really matter?
     
  13. richgem

    richgem suffering from chronic clicker hand cramps

    Well, still, at least in theory, an open comb wouldn't clog as easily if for ex. you're dealing with a couple day's growth.
     
  14. ShaversRUs

    ShaversRUs Well-Known Member

    I've used and liked a few open-combs, but I don't use them regularly. Since I shave everyday, I've always felt that the open-comb is an unnecessary feature for me. That being said, if a razor shaves well for me, the type of bar, or comb, is really irrelevant. N'est-ce pas?
     
  15. richgem

    richgem suffering from chronic clicker hand cramps

    "It's your shave. Enjoy it your way."


    (tm @swarden43)
     
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  16. ShaversRUs

    ShaversRUs Well-Known Member

    Exactly. If you get great shaves from the top of a tin can from last night's soup, then all power to you!
     
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  17. PLANofMAN

    PLANofMAN Eccentric Razor Collector Staff Member

    Moderator Article Team
    True.
    I think of 'closed combs' as a completely separate variation of the bar/safety guard.

    The Eclipse Red Ring is my go to example:
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    The Mühle R41 being a less extreme example.
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  18. WhyAreYouMe

    WhyAreYouMe Active Member

    I agree. I also consider razors like the Merkur 39C to be part of this:
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