1. Looks like we are on the same boat when it comes to skin issues :) . I'm glad that it works out for you. There is one question though, how on earth did you figure out this formula?
  2. My initial experiences with other different shavers have been very poor. I didn't consider the fact that you need to shave the sensitive parts of your skin quickly and in the beginning while the shaver is still cool. This model cuts beard easily, when you hear it cut, it actually cuts rather than just make cutting sounds.

    here are some tips that I incorporated in my EWS (Electric Wet Shave)
  3. Do you "dry shave" with it? If yes, I can imagine the damage it can do. Remember, getting your shave done while the shaver is still cool is the best scenario. For exfoliation of my skin, I am going to rely on lather applied thoroughly with a shaving brush. I will keep updating my short term and long term results here. :)
  4. I figured it out about ten or so years ago. As I said, I can't shave against the grain with a blade, so I have to accept some minor stubble at the end of a blade shave, regardless of which razor type I use. I had tried different electrics. The best I'd found at the time was the Panasonic Arc 3, which was capable of shaving pretty closely. However, it took a lot of work, which resulted in irritation, and it still didn't handle the longer stubble well. So I shelved it and kept using my blades. One day I was finishing up a M3 shave, noting the usual stubble - especially on my lower neck - and was curious to see how the Panasonic handled it. So I tried it, and found out it worked pretty well.
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  5. I once had a roommate who used an electric wet/dry razor. He eventually wound up using it dry because he said it made no difference. My old Remington electric probably works just as well, and it is as old as the hills.

    When calculating the cost per shave for an electric, don't forget to include periodic battery and blade + screens replacement. They aren't exactly cheap.
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  6. I'm really not interested in trying a different electric razor every few years in the hopes that technology has finally made a good one.
  7. Indeed, the cost per shave isn't exactly cheap but isn't exactly expensive either.
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  8. So save yourself the trouble and pick up a Panasonic Arc. ;)
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  9. Nope, you got my comment all wrong. My initial experiences were with Chinese weird named shavers only (Kemei, Sinbo etc etc). After exploring DE and Cartridge shave, I finally realized what kind of technology (arc 3 - 30 degree arced blades) would not only cut efficiently but also easily. :) . You get what you pay for.
  10. It sounds like I got your comment correct.
  11. So I shaved today again with Panasonic shaver. I wet-shaved on one side of my face and dry shaved on the other. Following are my detailed observations :)

    1. Proper prep and lathering not only improves the glide but also saves you the trouble of going over one section again and again. Hoping that your beard will miraculously disappear.
    2. Don't forget to map your beard pattern because you need to go AGT at all times with a foil shaver. The shaver can only cut the beard when the whiskers penetrate the foil and come in contact with the blades.
    3. Dry shave isn't good for blades and isn't good for your foil as well. Plus, you can always expect to get couple of your whiskers yanked out by making a poor stroke. This doesn't happen when wet-shaving.
    4. I irritated my face but only those sections where my face was dry and the shaver was hot due to constant friction between blades and foil.
    5. Rinsing off your shaving residuals after each stroke is a great idea. First rinse off all the residuals while the shaver is still turned on so that everything comes out of the blades and foil. Then turn it off and cool the blades and foil under cold water (10-15 seconds only). Believe me, it keeps the shaver's cutting efficiency constant at all times and saves your skin from getting irritated. :)
    6. If you are making a good stroke, no pressure is needed. Just glide it through and you are done.
    7. When the shave is done, detach the foil from the blades and leave both in open environment (not the washroom, please) to dry off.
    8. Taking good care of it will give you a good mileage and a lesser cost per shave.

    The shave once again yielded super good results (BBS all over my face). No ingrowns, no razor bumps and no irritation.

    That is all. Don't forget, I am not going through all this effort to promote EWS (Electric Wet Shaving) but exploring and sharing my observations with those who are interested in this option or have had poor experience in the past.


    :thanks:
  12. Nope again :D . Panasonic wetshaver was still around when I was trying out poor quality brands. So, It wasn't me who waited for technology to get better. It was the technology that waited for me to understand the theory behind it. :)
  13. :rofl::happy097:
  14. IMHO, it is about more than the cost per shave. For me, the combination of closeness, comfort,cost per shave, and shave availability. That last factor turned out the be one of the most important.
    My Remington Triple Foil 300 can give me baby bottom smooth shaves every day, as can my safety razor. The difference is that it takes less time with the safety razor. To get ultra smooth shaves with the electric, I have to wash my face and then let my beard thoroughly dry before starting to shave. The above addresses shave quality, but shave availability is also key. In the early 2000s, cartridges for my Trac II suddenly became very scarce. I am not sure why that was, but I switched back to the trusty ol' Remington. All was well until the Remington screen and blade kits were discontinued a few years later. The Chinese replacements were like shaving my face with a bee's nest. The worst shaves ever! Eventually, Remington made their own screens/blades available again, but by that time I had switched to traditional wetshaving. Also, electric razors only work where there is electricity to recharge them. At home, generally no problemo. On the road can be another matter, especially if one is out in the sticks. With a safety razor, I can get super smooth shaves for up to two months from a 10-pack of blades and a tube of shaving cream or a shave stick, no matter where I might be.

    In short, I have found a very economical way to consistently get great shaves quickly, no matter where I might be, and at minimal cost. Getting a new wet/dry electric razor would only be an additional expense that wouldn't get me anything I don't already have.

    Many of the members here got the shaves from hell with an electric or cartridge razor, and great shaves from a safety razor. It is no surprise they find your claims rather dubious. If an electric works best for you, then good for you! Seriously. To each his own, regardless of what others might think.
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  15. Then you are applying too much pressure. Pressing down harder will not give you a closer shave, and decreases screen life and dulls the blades more quickly. It is also likely to cause discomfort and irritation.

    That sounds like a pain in the neck, no pun intended. Couldn't it just be blow dried with air in a can? It is like wetshavers removing the blade and rinsing the razor with alcohol after each shave. There is nothing wrong with it, but it shouldn't be necessary. With a dry electric razor, you just put it away. With a safety razor, you just do a momentary rinse and put it away. Anything else is optional and not strictly necessary.
  16. - I believe I know how my skin reacts to a shaver and how much pressure I applied on the shaver but thanks anyway for making a guess. Please read the point number 6. The lather also reduces the co-efficient of friction between the foil and blades when wet-shaving. Less friction, better mileage.

    - As far as pain in the neck is concerned, I enjoy taking care of my machines/tools and keeping those in tip-top form at all time. I leave my electric shaver to dry on a table and when I am done doing some other task, I return, re-attach the parts and put the shaver back in cupboard. I don't see where it takes too much of my time.
  17. As far as availability is concerned, now a person can find and order shavers easily online. In my location, Panasonic shavers are not available in stores anymore. But, I have bookmarked websites that I can use in future for cash on delivery :). So in my personal case, shave availability is a N/A factor. Plus, when I was a trimmer using person, going into the woods presented no problems to me because I used to recharge my trimmer to the max before leaving for such a place. Same can be done on Panasonic shaver.

    I personally know many members who got shaves from hell with DE and Straights (including myself). Many variables vary from person to person. If you really wish to generalize then you are doing it the wrong way. DE and straight users are in minority and majority of the population uses Gillette proglide/schick hydro 5 and don't get any issues with it.
  18. If that is the case, it almost sounds like the razor was made to be used wet rather than dry. Interesting, but seems rather odd to me. Regardless, it it gives you good shaves, then all is well. Anyways, I will stick with my safety razor. If I do need to get a baby bottom smooth shave with an electric, my 30 year old Remington will do it dry and without having to be disassembled or dried off. I like my shaves as simple and easy as possible.
  19. As I said, many variables change from skin to skin. Whatever works best for you, is actually best for you.
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  20. True, but the same can be done on any shaver. The charge does eventually run out, though. I speak from experience, although the Remingtons do better than average in that regard.

    And your point?