Injector & SE Party !!!

Discussion in 'Safety Razors' started by Bird Lives, Apr 28, 2011.

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  1. Red Rider

    Red Rider Well-Known Member

    Schick dial or Hydro-magic lever will be my next injector try. Just ordered some Personna blades to compare to the Chinese Schicks from local pharmacy.
     
  2. Hodge

    Hodge Well-Known Member

    Those two and the Pal adjustable are on my short list. One thing to watch for buying a Hydro Magic is the piece under the lever on many of them are corroded looking. Almost like there's a dissimilar metals thing going on? This is all based on observations of pics on the Bay. Maybe one of the resident experts can chime in.......
     
  3. Rufus T.

    Rufus T. Late for dinner

    I've used the Hydro-Matic types J3 Golden 500 and I3 . Great, smooth shavers capable of 2-pass BBS every time for me. Hopefully you all will enjoy them as well.

    YMMV, but I've heard the Chinese Shicks work best in them. Haven't tried the Personnas.
     
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  4. feeltheburn

    feeltheburn Well-Known Member

    That piece under the lever looks like zinc alloy or aluminum to me and it's often corroded but cleans up well with some scrubbing bubbles and a toothbrush. Zinc and aluminum are often used as sacrificial anodes so there would be some corrosion due to the dissimilar metals but it's not as big a problem for something like a razor if it only spends a small part of its life submerged in fresh water. If it were submerged in the ocean for a couple months it'd be a whole other story though. I've never seen the piece eaten away to the point of failure so it might be more likely aluminum. Zinc does seem to corrode badly enough in razors to fail in less than the 50 or so years that these HMs have been around.
     
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  5. Billyfergie

    Billyfergie The Scottish Ninja

    + 1 Brian...They are more likely to be damaged by some seller unwittingly trying to get the blade out and buggering them up in the process...There are a lot of buggered up Schick's on EBay at the moment for exactly that reason...I am always very reluctant to purchase an Injector that has had the blade removed for that reason...I have bought a few that have had the blade removed and Dread them coming through the Door ..The Rinsing lever mechanism itself is quite sturdy but messing with the mechanism that holds the blade in place will Muck up the Head ...To the untrained eye it looks as if the blade is meant to come out that way and that's the problem right there...Bottom line is to try and get one that's not had the blade removed if you can...;)

    Billy..:chores016:
     
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  6. Herm2502

    Herm2502 off to elf practice

    Oh almighty SE gurus. I was wondering about the difference between a Schick type E and a type G. I've heard the E is slightly more aggressive. Anyone want to make the comparison? I like my Schick adjustable on 7.
     
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  7. Billyfergie

    Billyfergie The Scottish Ninja

    This one has caused some contention Sir...The Type E injectors varied in terms of Aggressiveness...There are many G Types Models but they are all equally Aggressive... In other words the difference's are only cosmetic... The early Type E 2 that opens is the most Aggressive USA made Type E...The early Type E 2 s are far more aggressive than a Type G...But here is the thing....The Type E s are far smoother than the Type G and they can feel less Aggressive at first but they shave far closer & deeper & are more likely to offer a Bite & Cut...:)

    The Type E 3, E 4 Injectors are not as aggressive as the earlier ones and only marginally more Aggressive than a G Type but far smoother than a G Type...Some of the Canadian Type E s are quite Mild as well as far as Type E s go... I if you want a smooth and Aggressive Type E then I would suggest looking for a Type E 2 that opens...See this photo Sir..:cool:
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    The one on the left is the Type E 2 that opens ...It has an off centred spring & sits off to the left and only has one Knob to the right of the spring...These are very smooth and deceptively Aggressive....Some folks have purported that the Schick Adjustable is as Aggressive as the earlier G Type & Type E s when its cranked up but I personally find that its Milder by comparison to both in my books..;)

    Billy...:chores016:
     
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  8. Red Rider

    Red Rider Well-Known Member

    I would also add that the early Canadian E2 prior to the addition of "Eversharp" are more efficient without being aggressive. I've provided a picture I took to show where to find the difference.
     

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  9. Herm2502

    Herm2502 off to elf practice

    Thanks Billy and thanks Red. So I think I'm looking for an "efficient" razor moreso than aggressive. You two have described it perfectly. I found my G to be too mild (I.e. less efficient) causing me to overwork my shave. So I guess I'm looking for an E2. TSD is awesome !
     
  10. Billyfergie

    Billyfergie The Scottish Ninja

    You Juice up a G Type with a Cut Down Feather Pro Blade and it will be super efficient Sir...Not for the Faint hearted though...Its Dynamite...:happy102:

    Billy..:chores016:
     
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  11. Red Rider

    Red Rider Well-Known Member

    Once I'm over Purgatory limbo period. I'll be feeling out some trades. I'd like to trade my black handle Canadian Schick E2 in box and in VG shape for a Schick Adjustable Hydro-Magic lever or Schick Golden 500. :angelic007:
    The butterscotch handle is a pre Eversharp E2 while the black handle is a stamped Eversharp Schick E2.
     

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  12. Billyfergie

    Billyfergie The Scottish Ninja

    That Black Handled one is a Canadian equivalent Type E 5 Sir...It has no lugs on the spring and it has a ridged comb...I cant see the comb on the other one but all Type E 2s have a smooth comb...:)

    Billy..:chores016:
     
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  13. Red Rider

    Red Rider Well-Known Member

    Here is a close up that may help. If an E5's I read they are rare ?
    Eversharp takeover from the Repeating Razor Company on 1946.
     

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  14. Billyfergie

    Billyfergie The Scottish Ninja

    Yeah that's a Later Ever sharp equivalent to the USA made Type E 5...They are quite rare Sir...The USA made ones are even rarer because they only made them for 6 months or so and had Schick Injector stamped on the spring... Some of these had a Chromium finish as well..:)
    Billy..:chores016:
     
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  15. zec668

    zec668 Well-Known Member

    Are there different versions of the head for Schick Gs? I recently bought one that has the seam in the handle, but it shaves MUCH more aggressively than the nos G that I bought originally. Also the head is slightly more inclined than my first as well.

    The aggressive one also has a slightly more bulged bit in the center of where it says Eversharp Schick.
     
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  16. Billyfergie

    Billyfergie The Scottish Ninja

    Yeah there is Sir...If you look at my thread just above I was just talking about this...There are 3 different USA made Type E 2s to start with as I have picture above and you are correct Sir...The angle of attack does vary in some earlier Type E Injectors and it does effect how aggressive it is....The Type E s got slightly milder until the Type E 3 and the difference were only cosmetic after that...;)
    Billy...:chores016:
     
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  17. zec668

    zec668 Well-Known Member

    Oh ok. The head looks very similar, but boy do they shave different. I think the milder, newer design was a change for the better imho. The older model seems very rough. Then again, maybe it just takes finding the "shy girl" as you say Billy ;)
     
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  18. Billyfergie

    Billyfergie The Scottish Ninja

    It depends what blade you are using in them Sir..These things are all personal of course...The Personna/Pella blades are a No No for me in early Type E injectors cause they can be harsh & rough in them...A Chinese blade works well in them but I personally use NOS Schick Plat blades in them...I am starting to favour a Cut down Feather Pro blade in the earlier Type E s...Awsome...As you say there is more of a subtle sweet spot in the earlier models...;)
    Billy..:chores016:
     
  19. Rufus T.

    Rufus T. Late for dinner

    @Billyfergie @Red Rider - Thanks for a great discussion to help identify some of these injectors.

    and to @Herm2502 and @zec668 for posing the questions and adding to the conversation.

    I've been done this road before trying to identify where my Canadian E2 fits in.

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    It would appear to be like the one in Red Rider's photo. Yes?
    Or is it not even the equivalent of an E2?
     
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  20. Billyfergie

    Billyfergie The Scottish Ninja

    I cant see his properly but your one has an off centred spring and appears to be one that opens... That would make it the equivalent to the First USA made Type E 2 that opens and these were the most aggressive Sir...There is also a Type E 2 with an Off centred spring that did not open as well...Does yours open Sir...:signs002:

    Billy..:chores016:
     
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