Omega boar vs. HIS synthetic for face lathering

Discussion in 'The Brush' started by Tdmsu, Feb 20, 2014.

  1. Tdmsu

    Tdmsu Well-Known Member

    Hello friends,

    I am growing more curious about boar brushes these days... maybe developing a BAD!
    I have some questions, but first a little background:

    I currently use a HIS synthetic and face lather. The brush is large, but I really like how soft it is and the feeling on my face. It easily lathers anything I've tried, and the only small issue is, because it is so big, I almost always get lather in my ears when I face lather. I've previously tried a small synthetic - a Parker, but I like the HIS much better. My only experience with boars comes from the VDH that came with my first kit a few months ago. I used it again yesterday, and I also prefer the HIS to the VDH.

    My questions:

    Is the Omega boar really that much better than the VDH?
    Is the 49 or the R&B limited too large for face lathering?
    I've attached images of the brushes for reference.

    Thanks for any advice!
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  2. RaZorBurn123

    RaZorBurn123 waiting hardily...............

    I've never heard of a brush just for face lathering or bowl. I do have the Pro48 which is big. I face lather with it. No issues.
     
  3. Chuck F

    Chuck F Cheesy! Big Curd style

    Yes, Omega boars are really a lot better than the VDH.

    I, too, face lather with a Pro 48. It's big and sloppy but works great. There are also shorter lofted Omegas (and Semogues) you could consider.

    Note that any boar brush is going to take some breaking in before it reaches its full potential.
     
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  4. fram773

    fram773 Well-Known Member

    I use the HIS for bowl lathering. Omega 10810 for face lathering. If I had to have just one I'd have the Omega. It's small and you won't have the problem with the HIS. It just feels so good to face lather with and face lathering is just so more convenient.

    Here's the Omega 10810:
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    Only problem I have with it is I think the handle is a little cheap. which is why I looked into that limited edition you showed. It is actually bigger than the HIS. Thus it is out of the question. I'm currently considering the 11137...
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    I hated the Parker...
     
  5. oscar11

    oscar11 Well-Known Member

    I don't think a person should try and compare different types of brushes, they're different so they shouldn't feel the same. I have very high regard of the HIS brush, it's a dandy, as are the the Muhle knots. Boars can be soft and luxurious though not exactly in the same way as a badger or synthetic. Personally, I like Omega's and would look for a large diameter knot with the shortest loft that they make. Any of the brushes you pictured are good. The brush, 10810, that fram773 pictured is a good knot too, I made a few brushes with that knot,
     
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  6. HolyRollah

    HolyRollah BaconLord

    The Omega 48 & 49 are better brushes than the VDH, in my experience. They may not be as firm as the VDH, but they don't shed nearly as much as the VDH is prone to do.
    I use the Omegas both for face and bowl lathering and find they do the job quite well in both instances.
    Yes, they can get a bit moppy & sloppy if you're not careful, but overall, I find the Omegas to be an exceptional value in boar brushes.
     
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  7. swarden43

    swarden43 "It's your shave. Enjoy it your way."©

    Some folks prefer boar, some badger, some horse, some synthetic.
    Some folks prefer large knots, some smaller knots.
    Some folks use soap, some creams.
    Some folks face lather, some use a bowl.

    So to answer your questions, there is no "better" brush, there is no "too large" brush, there are only "you have to decide for yourself" brushes.

    Sorry, but that's how it goes.
     
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  8. HoosierTrooper

    HoosierTrooper Steve-less in Indiana

    That sums it up perfectly.
     
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  9. Lutebro

    Lutebro Well-Known Member

    I've had some brushes that were supposed to be amazing but didn't work for me. As my technique develops I may revisit them and love them but experience plays into how a brush will behave.
     
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  10. joshkamradt

    joshkamradt Member

    Tell me why synthetics are better in your opinions i am thinkin about gettin one
     
  11. swarden43

    swarden43 "It's your shave. Enjoy it your way."©

    I, personally, don't think they are better, just different. I can whip up a great lather just as easily with a synthetic as I can a badger or boar. That said, I prefer badger just because of how they feel on my face. Still just personal preference.

    Oh, just thought of this - they are better in two regards: they do dry faster than natural brushes (boar, badger, horse) and are less apt to develop mold if stored slightly damp. These features make it ideal as a travel brush.
     
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  12. Erik Redd

    Erik Redd Lizabeth, baby, I'm comin' to join ya.

    Well, since you're asking for opinions

    Is the Omega boar really that much better than the VDH? - YES
    Is the 49 or the R&B limited too large for face lathering? - NO

    I face lather with the 49, it's my preferred method. Although you can use any brush with soaps, I prefer the 49 with hard soaps, I think the backbone of the 49 helps in getting the brush loaded with soap.

    The one issue I don't like about synthetics is they don't retain water. When I'm face lathering I occasionally get drips from the brush hitting my manly belly chest.
     
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  13. JRod22

    JRod22 Well-Known Member

    I just picked up 2 synthetics this month. A Muhle V.2 Black Fibre and the Plisson. They are both similar but their fibers perform a bit differently. I have used some synthetics in the past and was never a huge fan, though I did enjoy my Muhle STF minus its handle (but I was still very intrigue with badger brushes back then). After having built up a nice collection and using many grades of badger, both Omega and Semogue boars, and Vie-Long horse hair, I've tried out many of the options in the market.

    With that being said, these new synthetics load very quickly, produce a great lather quickly, and the softness of a new quality synthetic knot is way softer than any badger, boar, or horse I've felt. The face feel is big for me lately. My face is really sensitive and sometimes even my collection of quality badgers and boards irritates my skin or feels too scratchy. These synthetics are remarkably soft. Give one a try. I will say that for me, I had to adjust the amount of pressure I use while lathering (I face lather) for optimal performance, but once you dial that in your golden.
     
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  14. GDCarrington

    GDCarrington Burma Shave

    It is not a matter as Steve said of better or worse. Each type of brush has strengths and weaknesses and it is up to the user to determine which is set of strengths and weaknesses can be balanced to make the best experience for the individual.

    You might want to read up on this:

    http://theshaveden.com/forums/threads/synthetic-brush-synopsis-generations-updated.33577/
     
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  15. GDCarrington

    GDCarrington Burma Shave

    As to the Pro Series, they will do a better job of face lathering than people expect. I use my custom handled version, which changes nothing from the original in terms of the knot (the knot / cap union is the fixed element regardless of handle), using both methods. It does a great job of face lathering as well as bowl lathering.

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  16. Tdmsu

    Tdmsu Well-Known Member

    Thanks for all the help, men!
    I am happy with my HIS synthetic, but I think I'm going to try an Omega 49, or that limited edition at some point.
     
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  17. BudWhite

    BudWhite Well-Known Member

    I love my 49. Once those ends split, it gets really soft and lathers like a champ (especially in the bowl). I prefer a brush with a shorter loft for face lathering however.
     
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