What makes a vintage straight valuable?

Discussion in 'Straight Razors' started by gemmicro, Sep 7, 2014.

  1. Darkbulb

    Darkbulb Cookie Hoarder

    Hot pin test is, supposedly used to to test;
    a) Smell: If it's smell like burnt plastic..it's plastic. If it smells like burning hair - then it may well be tortoise, and
    b) Resistance: A hot pin into plastic will go in very easily - but with tortoise there will be more 'resistance'.
     
  2. gemmicro

    gemmicro Active Member

    Thanks! I'll take some photos of them up close tm. The one i got today could be used to swap the scales. It's amazing how similar the scale are, and both from england.
     
  3. lindyhopper66

    lindyhopper66 Well-Known Member

    The Sheffield razors do look similar to each other. A lot of makers in Sheffield and Solingen would use some of the same workers. Designs of straights haven't changed drastically in the last 200 or so years, but they have had their different stages from hunks of iron/steel to heavy wedges with stub (short) tails, to the Hamburg hollow grounds to extra hollows and from large razors to smaller razors. The steel making process has kept changing as well. Artisan makers often use 01 tool steel or specialty steels. The Sheffield razors have a special heft and feel of their own and they'll last forever.

    You could sell them pretty quickly on badgerandblade and straightrazorplace.
     
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  4. gemmicro

    gemmicro Active Member

    yea I got in a fight with b&b mod and got kicked off lol
     
  5. gssixgun

    gssixgun At this point in time...

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    Having honed well over 12k razors I have held in my hands less then 20 with Genuine Tortoise scales

    Most everything that people think are Tortoise are either Mottled Horn or Celluloid

    If you post a pic with the scales lit from behind and if they are dark a pic that I can see the edges, I can probably tell you just from the pics


    Hot Pin + Celluloid = Bye Bye Scales
    Vintage razor scales are not Plastic they are Celluloid or Bakelite and variations of them.. Celluloid is HIGHLY flammable and cannot be extinguished easily once ignited.. It is easily ignited in fact I have lit it off with a belt sander just to see if I could, and it was with a quickness

    Value = Condition Condition Condition much like Real Estate is Location Location Location
     
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  6. gemmicro

    gemmicro Active Member

    ok will do. Maybe they could be horn.
     
  7. Darkbulb

    Darkbulb Cookie Hoarder

    At B&B?! Unheard of! :cool:
     
  8. johnus

    johnus Well-Known Member

    Old, clean, shaves.
     
  9. gemmicro

    gemmicro Active Member

    joseph smith:
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  10. gemmicro

    gemmicro Active Member

    I believe the other is just horn. Just a few pics of it here.
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  11. gssixgun

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    Great Pics BTW :D

    Yes they are both what are called "Mottled Horn" which was basically Honey Horn pressured dyed to look like Tortoise..

    A 24-48 hour soaking in Neetsfoot Oil followed by a rough cloth rubdown will vastly improve both of those scales... The one might be too far gone to help much but it wouldn't hurt to try..
     
  12. gemmicro

    gemmicro Active Member

    cool thanks! The Joesph smith scales I believe are the ones that are not salvage? Could I re scale it without killing the value?
     
  13. gssixgun

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    If the scales are not functional they are detracting from the value not helping it :(
     
  14. gssixgun

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    Insta-PIF :D

    I just ran out to the shop and found a few sets in the "Bench Box"

    Here these are in pretty good shape and a good cleaning and soaking should make them even better

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    Fire me a PM with a mailing address and I will send them to ya PLEASE tell me you are in the US hehehe
     
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  15. cubancigar2000

    cubancigar2000 Well-Known Member

    nothing turns me off more than a non functional or ugly set of scales
     
  16. Darkbulb

    Darkbulb Cookie Hoarder

    I think I'd be more turned off by a non functional blade :)
     

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