How long do you soak a badger brush?

Discussion in 'The Brush' started by BigCabDaddy, Jan 22, 2016.

  1. BigCabDaddy

    BigCabDaddy Well-Known Member

    I assume there is some absorption still though I've heard it's not as much as boar. Just curious since I'm soaking for the duration of my shower today regardless.
     
  2. 211bma

    211bma Active Member

    I soak mine for about five minutes while I wash my face and prep my shave at the end of my shower.
     
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  3. david of central florida

    david of central florida Rhubarb Rubber

    I soak mine maybe two minutes. the length off tone it takes to choose and prep my razor. then wash my face.
    by that time I flick the brush once and then to the soap or lather bowl.
    so to answer, 2-4 minutes.
     
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  4. PLANofMAN

    PLANofMAN Eccentric Razor Collector Staff Member

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    Badger brushes hold water differently than boars, they don't absorb water at all. They trap water in between the bristles.

    I hold mine under hot water for about 15 seconds to heat the hairs up. Or dunk it once or twice in hot water.

    Soaking offers no benefit whatsoever.
     
  5. david of central florida

    david of central florida Rhubarb Rubber

    it makes me feel good
    lol if that's a benefit.
     
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  6. PLANofMAN

    PLANofMAN Eccentric Razor Collector Staff Member

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    So, here's the technical answer:

    "Badgers have, what we in the fly tying community refer to as, solid hair vs. species such as deer, elk, moose, antelope and caribou which have, predominantly, hollow hairs. Structurally, solid hairs are not actually solid but rather, under the pressure of tying thread, they behave as though they were. Such hairs are incompressible and do not flare or deform as they are wrapped with thread. The surface of the fibers tends to be rather smooth, almost slippery, and when gathered in a bundle, these hairs will slide and roll against one another. My conclusion would be that badger hair hydrophilic properties are not such that it absorbs water, per se, although there is some penetration in the animal when alive because of the permeability properties of the skin which allow for follicle opening and, thus, some water retention. Absent of the skin, I believe that in a shaving brush it is the architectural structure of the instrument that accounts for water retention."

    There are actually little "pits" in the surface of badger hairs that "grab" water molecules and hold them between the hairs. As the hairs move, they release the water easily. This property is what we call "flow through" the higher the loft, and the less densely packed the brush is, the better the flow through.
    Here's a magnified photo of badger hair:
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    Here is a badger hair under an electron microscope. In this case, a Shavemac D01 Three Band hair:
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    The tip of that hair:
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    Here is a human hair under an electron microscope:
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    Boar hair is actually hollow, which is why it becomes waterlogged and softer and it soaks up more water.

    Boar shaft under an electron microscope:
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  7. swarden43

    swarden43 "It's your shave. Enjoy it your way."©

    Badger, boar, synthetic - they all soak for as long as it takes me to finish drying and comb my hair. It soaks in my lather bowl that is immersed in hot water. Bowl and brush soak more for the benefit of getting hot, thus warming up my lather.
     
  8. Rusty blade

    Rusty blade The Good Humor Man

    :signs011:
     
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  9. battle.munky

    battle.munky Has the menthol.munky on his back!

    I soak them while I shower, no matter the knot, for all and any of the reasons above.
     
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  10. HolyRollah

    HolyRollah BaconLord

    7 minutes, 32 seconds. Done.


    ...or however long my shower lasts, beforehand.
     
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  11. Redfisher

    Redfisher Doesn't celebrate National Donut Day

    It soaks while I shower....
     
  12. RaZorBurn123

    RaZorBurn123 waiting hardily...............

    5 minutes. That's my shower allotment time.
     
  13. Spud

    Spud Well-Known Member

    Same here. After I get out of the shower I dump the water out and add warm water just to ensure its nice and warm before I start lathering.
     
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  14. SpeedyPC

    SpeedyPC Well-Known Member

    I soak my Simpsons Duke 3 Best 2-Band in warm water, while I'm in the shower ready to go shaving that way my brush is ready before starting the lather.
     
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  15. Primotenore

    Primotenore missed opera tunity

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    I soak 'em all whilst I shower. Boar, Badger, even my synthetic. Whether or not it makes any difference, it's part of my ritual. :)
     
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  16. Batman9402

    Batman9402 Active Member

    I just wet the brush for a bit. Fling out some water then start lathering
     
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  17. tuxxdk

    tuxxdk International Penguin of Mystery

    What the good Sir above said.
     
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  18. TheManWithNoName

    TheManWithNoName Well-Known Member

    Like many others here, I soak my badger brush while I shower (approximately 10 minutes).
     
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  19. Halvor

    Halvor Well-Known Member

    :signs011:
     
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  20. Troy M

    Troy M Prep: Mephitis mephitis musk

    :signs011:
    unless I am in a hurry then I just run it under warm water for a few seconds.
     
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