These would be the black pack I'm referring to. JoAnnA is going to be placing an order soon. I am interested in a bulk order to make s/h charges worthwhile. She has indicated if others express interest she will place a large enough order to cover everyone and perhaps offer a bulk discount. Or perhaps if you have an interest in another brand. I shouldn't put words in her mouth regarding discounts or other brands however so will let her chime in on that. So anyone else interested?