Gillette "Chrome" Toggle F4 in Gold

Discussion in 'Safety Razors' started by GlennConti, Jun 24, 2013.

  1. GlennConti

    GlennConti Well-Known Member

    I saw this at Above The Tie and I decided to add another unique razor to my collection. It is a "Chrome" toggle just like on the Mr Razor site but it is in gold. It is original condition but no case. Here are pictures of it. Notice the wear on the toggle, the unique blade gap adjuster and the lack of a red dot.

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  2. BigT

    BigT Well-Known Member

    Man O man. I don't care about the little bit of plating loss at all. Beautiful razor my friend!
     
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  3. GlennConti

    GlennConti Well-Known Member

    This is the "Chrome" Toggle from Mr Razor. Mine seems identical but in gold. Look at the base plate where the razor blade sets into. Unlike a Fatboy or a Bottom Dial or a standard Toggle. I'm not even sure how the blade gap changes on this razor when you turn the knob; what happens? I'll see when I get my hands on it.

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  4. Raven312

    Raven312 Well-Known Member

    Well, THAT didn't take long! LOL
     
  5. GlennConti

    GlennConti Well-Known Member

    I only have a like three or so razors left till I have one of each type of all of the Gillette Adjustables. And only one expensive one left. I'll just have to eat beans for a while because of this collection. :happy068:
     
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  6. Raven312

    Raven312 Well-Known Member

    What's your favorite kind? Maybe we can all chip in and send you a few cans! :happy102:
     
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  7. oldtrout

    oldtrout Well-Known Member

    I saw that on Stan's site...should have pulled the trigger dang it.
    Congratulations!

    I picked up a replated 1914 Gillette bell tip Aristocrat from Stan. He is really nice to work with.
     
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  8. Lothar101

    Lothar101 Active Member

    I'd be eating beans already :) But always great to see these old razors !
     
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  9. Weeper Warrior

    Weeper Warrior Well-Known Member

    Wow....Does it have the shorter Toggle as well?
     
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  10. GlennConti

    GlennConti Well-Known Member

    I don't know yet. I have a standard D1 Toggle too so when I receive the "Chrome" Toggle (in gold), I'll also compare the toggle lengths and let you know.
     
  11. Weeper Warrior

    Weeper Warrior Well-Known Member

    It is definitely one of a kind...Congrats, very nice.
     
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  12. Slipperyjoe

    Slipperyjoe Rusty Metal Tetanus

  13. GlennConti

    GlennConti Well-Known Member

    Thanks guys. :) I can't believe how my collection of adjustable Gillette's is all coming together. I have been really lucky to find all the various models.
     
  14. GlennConti

    GlennConti Well-Known Member

    Glenn's NOTEs:

    1) There are 15 versions not 14. There is a 9 terminus Gold Toggle Non-Red Dot too which I have.
    2) What this translation calls stainless steel is really nickle plated brass.
    3) What this translation calls 5 speed is really 5 terminus with 9 positions - there are 5 numbers and 4 1/2 positions.
    4) The names in parenthesis at the end of Mr Razors descriptions are mine.

    Mr Razor lists the 14 adjustable models in his eBay advertisements (in German). Here is a Google translation:

    Adjustable gives it in 14 versions:
    8.5 cm stainless steel design with a thicker grip (Standard Nickle Fatboy)
    8.5 cm stainless steel design with a thicker handle and a red dot on the dial (Red Dot Nickle Fatboy)
    8.5 cm stainless steel design with a thicker handle, collar on the handle end 5-speed (5 terminus Nickle Bottom Dial 195)
    8.5 cm stainless steel design with a thicker handle, collar on the handle end 9-speed (9 terminus Nickle Bottom Dial 195)
    8.5 cm golden Executive version with a thicker grip (Executive Gold Fatboy)
    9 cm stainless steel (Standard Nickle Slim)
    9 cm golden Aristocrat execution (Aristocrat Gold Slim)
    9.5 cm stainless steel shaving head with a black aluminum handle (Super 84 Black Beauty (short))
    10 cm golden toggle design with “knee-opening mechanism” 5-step (5 terminus Gold Toggle)
    10 cm golden toggle design with “knee-opening mechanism” nine-step (9 terminus Gold Toggle)
    Toggle 10 cm stainless steel design with “knee-opening mechanism (9 terminus Nickle Toggle Non-Red Dot)
    11 cm stainless steel shaving head with a black aluminum handle (Super 109 Black Beauty (long))
    11 cm stainless steel shaving head (underside of plastic) with a black aluminum handle (Super 109 Black Plastic Base)
    11 cm gold shaving head with a black aluminum handle (Super 109 Black Beauty Gold)
     
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  15. Raven312

    Raven312 Well-Known Member

    And out of those 15, you have how many...? :innocent
     
  16. GlennConti

    GlennConti Well-Known Member

    I realize it's a rhetorical question but fun to answer in any case. :)

    I still need:

    Super 84 Black Beauty Short - No problem
    Super 109 Black Beauty Long - No problem
    Red Dot Nickle Fatboy - No problem
    9 Terminus Nickle Toggle Non-Red Dot - Tough
    5 Terminus Gold Toggle - Impossible
    5 Terminus Nickle Bottom Dial 195 - Impossible

    Mr Razor still needs:

    5 Terminus Gold Toggle
    5 Terminus Nickle Bottom Dial 195
    9 terminus Gold Toggle Non-Red Dot
     
  17. GlennConti

    GlennConti Well-Known Member

    I just received my "Gold Non-Red Dot Toggle". I'm not going to call it a "Chrome" Toggle in Gold anymore. Mr Razor needs to rethink what he calls his nickle toggle of the same model. Here it is compared to a D1 Red Dot Toggle. Notice the differences.

    1) Obviously there is no red dot. There is a black stop pin corresponding to the position adjustment.
    2) There are no notches cut out of the blade gap base that the razor blade rests on.
    3) There is only one black collet not two.
    4) The toggle is shorter.

    I have extensively gone over the Gold Non-Red Dot Toggle with a jeweler's loupe. The plating and detail are flawless which means this is razor is NOT a "Chrome" Toggle that has been re-plated in gold. Re-plated razors are easy to detect with a jeweler's loupe because there is either a loss in detail and/or old plating that gets recovered which shows up as bumps. So this is the only known Gold Non-Red Dot Toggle while there are a few Nickle Non-Red Dot Toggles known to exist.

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  18. ObiDon

    ObiDon member in questionable standing

    Thanks for the education! There are a few Toggles on the bay now so was looking at the history. Nice collection you have and congrats on getting that new one I saw you post about in another thread! :eatdrink047:
     
  19. Slow Joe

    Slow Joe Relishing his obsession

    Do you have any photos of your collection?
     
  20. GlennConti

    GlennConti Well-Known Member

    You can check out "My Collection" in my signature. It has a lot of my razors. Here is one I got recently not pictured:

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