Gold Plating a Baili BT131

Discussion in 'Special Projects' started by MrEE, Sep 22, 2019.

  1. MrEE

    MrEE Half Naked Shave Stalker

    This is a running log of my first attempt at gold plating a razor.

    I have a some experience nickel plating, having started out using vinegar based nickel acetate and moving on to commercially produced acid nickel electrolyte. In the learning process, I've experimented with battery acid, brake cleaner, acetone, muriatic acid, root kill, Draino, lye, sodium bisulfate, ammonia, trisodium phosphate, soda ash, and even baking soda, vinegar, glycerin, and table salt. I've electro-cleaned, electro-stripped, and electro-plated using several different techniques.

    Now that I've gotten good results nickel plating, I'm ready to try plating with precious metals. Gold and Rhodium are both plated over a layer of nickel so I have a little bit of a head start.

    Normally, I try new things with spent rifle cases, but this time I'm doing something new. I'm going to buy a low cost Chinese razor, strip off the chrome finish, touch up the nickel strike, add a bright nickel plate, and then plate in 14k gold.

    The razor is on its way. At this point, this razor will become either treasure (if you can call an gold plated $8 razor treasure) or trash.

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  2. MrEE

    MrEE Half Naked Shave Stalker

    First things first. The BT131 isn't a brass razor. It's cast zinc plated with chrome. I've never worked with zinc and the only thing I've done with chrome was strip it off a brass box before plating in, you guessed it, nickel. In that case, I used a nickel stripper to desolve the nickel strike plate and the chrome just flaked off leaving bare brass. I can't do that with this razor because that would leave bare zinc. You can't plate zinc with acid based electrolytes. The preferred processes for plating on zinc use cyanide electrolytes. I'm not willing to handle cyanide plating baths, so that's a no go. There are a few other options for plating zinc, but I have no experience with the chemicals involved and I really have no other use for them. Perhaps someday I will try plating zinc, but today is not that day. So, I have to remove the chrome without removing the nickel.

    I can't find a reliable and novice friendly way to perform this step. Once the chrome is stripped, the rest of the project is identical to a nickel plated razor minus nickel stripping. As that's the only part most will find useful, we'll skip to that point.
     
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  3. MrEE

    MrEE Half Naked Shave Stalker

    Razor arrived right on time. Took a quick picture and headed out to the shop to get that darn chrome off.
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    Well, that didn't take long. Just over 4 minutes. It took me longer to get things set up.

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    You can clearly see the color of the nickel in contrast to the chrome razors and the color matches my most recent nickel plating project almost exactly.
     
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  4. Jayaruh

    Jayaruh The Cackalacky House Pet

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    Very good. I will be following your progress.
     
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  5. MrEE

    MrEE Half Naked Shave Stalker

    So, I pollished the razor and now it won't pass the water break test. The water should sheet off and not bead up.

    This means I have to mix a boiling alkali bath to soak the razor in before copper plating. Too much to setup and then put away tonight. I guess plating will have to wait until tomorrow.

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    No time to do this tonight.
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  6. MrEE

    MrEE Half Naked Shave Stalker

    Wired up the parts with scrap copper wire.
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    Hot Alkali Bath:


    Bath is made up of
    200 ml of ammonia
    300 ml distilled water
    2 tbsp trisodium phosphate (TSP)
    2 tsp dish soap
    Add parts and bring to boil in well ventilated area. 10 minutes

    The parts started to bubble as soon as added to the warm bath indicating the alkali bath is reacting to a residue on the surface. Most likely polishing compound.

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    Setup plating station while waiting for parts.

    I set the power supply to 1.5 volts to simulate the power being supplied by a single C or D cell battery. Copper likes to plate at low voltage.

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    Rinse part in tap water and then distilled water for 1 min.


    Alkali Electro Clean:
    recipe:
    12.5 g sodium carbonate aka soda ash (not bicarbonate)
    5 g trisodium phosphate
    5 g sodium hydroxide aka lye
    500 ml distilled water

    Stainless steel anode (+). You can use a cheap spoon or butter knife for this. Part is cathod (-). 5 V for 2 minutes.

    You can see the part producing bubbles which is how this process cleans the part.

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    Rinse part in tap water and then distilled water for 1 min.

    Acid bath:

    15% HCL acid. muriatic acid available at any hardware store. You can also use sodium bisulfate and distilled water for this step, but I haven't tried it yet.

    The acid bath is critical for cleaning and activating the part.

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    Passes water break test

    The distilled water should sheet off the part and not bead up. If the water beads you still have contaminants (soils) on the part and plating will not produce the desired results.

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    Copper electro plating bath:

    I decided to use commercially available plating electrolyte. This is available for $18 per liter on Amazon. Copper Anode. Part as Cathod. 1.5 VDC. 6 min. Agitate the bath while plating.

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    Parts after plating in copper:

    I should have rinsed in distilled water and acid bath for 30 seconds followed by sonic or mechanical cleaning (soap and toothbrush). However I just rinsed in tapwater and the residual plating solution left stains on the part. Stains were easily removed with a polishing cloth.

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  7. MrEE

    MrEE Half Naked Shave Stalker

    Okay, that's it for the copper plating. Going to wait a few days and see if the plating blisters or discolors before moving forward. The next step will be nickel plating followed by gold plating. I haven't ordered the gold electrolyte yet as I didn't want to buy it until I was more certain this was going to work.
     
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  8. brit

    brit in a box

    very cool..
     
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  9. MrEE

    MrEE Half Naked Shave Stalker

    So, the electrolyte is also on it's way. This is the cheapest bottle of gold electrolyte I could find. For some strange reason the 18K was cheaper than the 14K.

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  10. Enrico

    Enrico Popcorn

    Very interesting!

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    :)
     
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    Keithmax Breeds Pet Rocks

  12. david of central florida

    david of central florida Rhubarb Rubber

    Very nice, i think the 14 is brighter, therefore more sought after. Strange 18 would be more precious.
     
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  13. MrEE

    MrEE Half Naked Shave Stalker

    The gold electrolyte is scheduled for delivery on 10/2. So the final nickel and gold plating will probably happen on Thursday.

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  14. AGHisBBS

    AGHisBBS Well-Known Member

    Subscribed to thread and fascinated.
     
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  15. wristwatchb

    wristwatchb wristwatch "danger" b

    Very interesting, Evan. What do you do with your "spent" solutions?
     
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  16. MrEE

    MrEE Half Naked Shave Stalker

    Most of the solutions I use are household cleaners and are safe to just dump down the drain. The acids need to be diluted and neutralized with baking soda first, but its safe to just dump those down the drain after neutralizing. The plating solutions replenish from the anode so can last for years. The included documentation says call your local EPA office for disposal guidelines.

    I stay away from more dangerous processes which produce hazardous waste.

    To prevent illegal dumping my city has an annual day when we can drop off hazardous household wastes for free. The only waste which concerns me is the stripping bath which is sulfuric acid containing stripped copper and nickel. I will turn than in on that day.



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  17. wristwatchb

    wristwatchb wristwatch "danger" b

    It sounds like you have all the bases covered. Everything is fairly straightforward with the exception of the spent sulfuric acid. I'm glad you have access to a local household waste collection. I just delivered a trunk load of old paints, pesticides, and electronics to a similar event near my home.

    Thanks for letting us all follow along and learn from your plating project.
     
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  18. wchnu

    wchnu Duck Season!

    I am going to watch this thread. Putting lipstick on a pig is fun. You do a great job explaining the process too.
     
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  19. MrEE

    MrEE Half Naked Shave Stalker

    The verdict may be trash. While preparing the top plate I noticed bubbles in the acid bath. This indicates that the acid was in contact with zinc. I rushed through the rest of the steps hoping to get a good plate without contaminating the baths and ended up with poor adhesion on the nickel plate. The handle turned out beautiful, but the top plate is a mess. I will try to clean and prep again, but if I am dealing with exposed zinc, I can't finish. I did learn enough that I do feel like I can plate a brass razor. Perhaps I will share that.

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  20. MrEE

    MrEE Half Naked Shave Stalker

    I am 99% sure I polished through the existing nickel plate on the corners and edges exposing zinc which I don't have the proper plating bath to repair. I must have done this after the copper plate because the copper plate went on so smoothly.

    So, here is what I will do. The handle looks amazing and plated with ease. I will buy another razor and just strip off the chrome and plate directly with gold. I had only plating with copper and then nickel for learning and demo purposes. Those steps were never necessary.



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