Hard water

Discussion in 'Shave Soaps' started by Segafan#1, Mar 9, 2016.

  1. Segafan#1

    Segafan#1 Well-Known Member

    I just got a hot tub and tried test strips my water seems to be hard water.... Is this why sometimes my lathers come out amazing and other times I seem to fight it lol? ....
     
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  2. RyX

    RyX DoH!

    Easy fix. Purchase distilled water for testing on the difficult ones.
    Then you will eliminate that as a variable.
     
  3. BigMike

    BigMike Well-Known Member

    I don't know, but try shaving in the hot tub and let us know your results.

    ;-)
     
  4. RaZorBurn123

    RaZorBurn123 waiting hardily...............

    I have hard water and have yet to have any problems, even with the "legendary MWF"
     
  5. RyX

    RyX DoH!

    For your reference;
    Water HardnessMap.png
     
  6. Segafan#1

    Segafan#1 Well-Known Member

    According to this I'm in the white zone lol
     
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  7. Segafan#1

    Segafan#1 Well-Known Member

    Mwf has strangely never been a problem for me lol
     
  8. Segafan#1

    Segafan#1 Well-Known Member

    To be fair I've only used my puck
    about 5 times though
     
  9. RyX

    RyX DoH!

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  10. ask4Edge

    ask4Edge New Member

    Soft water is preferable (no matter the soap/cream brand), but, a good soap should lather well, even in hard (within reason) water, IMO.
    IME, hard water affects (increases) soap scum, to a greater degree than (decreasing) latherability.

    Btb, when I used Kent/MWF, it consistently (and quickly) developed copious, billowy lather in my moderately hard water.
     
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  11. MarshalArtist

    MarshalArtist Psychiatric Help 5ยข

    The calcium in hard water will precipitate out the saponified fatty acids so you need more soap to get the same results. (You use up the calcium in the water by precipitating it out with the soap.) If the water is very hard, you will need a lot.
    The problem people encounter is when they use a sodium salt water softener. Due to the collegative property of solutions, and that capturing one calcium ion releases two sodium ions in exchange, you run out of "room" in your solvent and cannot dissolve enough soap to make a good lather.
     
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  12. Col C

    Col C Well-Known Member

    I'm on a well with very hard water. I do have a softner unit hooked into the system but the water is still pretty hard. I find that some soaps lather far better than others. The best are Stirling, Captain's Choice, and Cella. I'm still trying different soaps, so there are probably some others out there that work well with hard water.
     
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  13. DesertTime

    DesertTime Well-Known Member

    In my area, the water is about 17 gpg, where anything above 10.5 gpg is considered very hard. I've had no problem with my tallow based soaps (MWF, Tabac, Stirling, etc), but have to work a bit harder with some vegetable/glycerine based soaps. But most, if they're decent soaps, will eventually yield a lather I can shave with.
     
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  14. DChalfy

    DChalfy Member

    I live in Minnesota and have hard water. After doing some research, I found that using citric acid has been both cost effective and softens the water right up. Citric acid can be found in most health food stores. I fill my bathroom basin with hot water, the sprinkle a little citric acid in the sink and swish it around to dissolve it. Makes a world of difference in the quality of water, lather, soaking my boar brushes, keeping my skin hydrated, lack of hard water spots on razor blades, and makes my whole shaving experience more pleasurable. I also rinse my razors in cold water, then swirl them in 91-99% alcohol to ensure the blades are free of water spots.

    Please hit me with questions if you have any.
     
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  15. RetLEO-07

    RetLEO-07 likes his penguin deep fried, with pink sparkles

    Looks like a drunken sailor put that map together.
     
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  16. RyX

    RyX DoH!

    There's a link in this post.

    I have been marking links with BOLD to make them easier to see.
     

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