Help identifying a Gillette Razor

Discussion in 'Safety Razors' started by Mechguy, Sep 21, 2011.

  1. Mechguy

    Mechguy Well-Known Member

    Well, here is the third and final razor I received from my stepdad. It is an American Gillette TTO, but that is all I know about it. I went to Mr Razors site to see if I could identify it, and the closest I could come is a milord 46 or 47.

    Can anybody help me out? Its gold plated, and most of plating is coming off the silo doors. I am not looking to sell, just understand what I have. This has given me some of my best shave's of all the razors I have. As close as I have come to BBS to date. I'm really liking this one.

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  2. Nairb

    Nairb Active Member

    Or could it be a Sheraton? I'm certainly no expert.

    Are there any numbers/letters imprinted under the head?
     
  3. IAmTheJody

    IAmTheJody Gillette-i Master Staff Member

    That's a Gillette Milord. If it were a Sheraton, it would have an open-comb head.

    It's not a 1946 Milord because the handle is fully knurled. The 1946 Milord handle has a smooth band just above the TTO knob.

    If it doesn't have a date code on the bottom of it, It was made in 1947, 1948, 1949 or 1950.

    If it does have a date code on the bottom of it, it was made 1950 or after.
     
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  4. Mechguy

    Mechguy Well-Known Member

    Man, that is impressive. I was just looking at the pictures on Mr. Razor and playing the seaseme street game, one of these things doesn't look like the others.
    Thanks for your input. I don't believe there is a date code, but I need to clean it up and look. Where should I look for the date code, and approximately how big is it? Is it the same size as the patent numbers?

    Is this the same head geometry as used on the New's and tech's. It really seems to shave much better than my new or slim.
     
  5. IAmTheJody

    IAmTheJody Gillette-i Master Staff Member

    On the bottom side of the head where the neck meets the head, if there is a date code, you should see a single letter and a single number stamped. An example is seen below:

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    If there is a date code, you can go to this web page to determine the year it was made:
    http://www.renaldo.us/grbd.html

    I really don't know about the geometry but I would say the blade-gap (gap between the blade edge and guard) is certainly different.
     
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  6. GDCarrington

    GDCarrington Burma Shave

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    Jody is correct. It is not a Sheraton. It is a Milord, which is next in the lineage after the Sheraton. Gillette could not retool fast enough after the war and continued for one more year with the older style handles in 1946 for both the SuperSpeeds and the Milords. In 1947 the transition was made to the fully knurled handle like yours.

    Here is my 1947 Milord. Mechguy, I agree with you on the shaving ability of this razor. They are nice razors. I shaved with this one this week and it gave me an excellent shave!
     
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  7. Mechguy

    Mechguy Well-Known Member

    Thank you that is very helpful. This is turning out to be the razor that gives me the best shaves.
     
  8. Mechguy

    Mechguy Well-Known Member

    It gives me better shaves than my slim or my new, every time. Its just amazing. Its rapidly becoming my favorite.

    Again thanks to everyone for your help. Educational as always.
     
  9. Oldguy

    Oldguy Member

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    I became quite interested in collecting the Milord some time ago. It's not easy to find a really nice one without spending a few bucks. The thin gold plating on the head doors wears fairly easily with prolonged use. The two razors in the front row are the 1940 Milord and Milady in the matching cases. What's interesting is the knurling or lack of is different. Also note there are no end caps. The back row of three shows the 1946 and 1947 style razors. The three cases are different in that the size of the squares in the outer case patterns are very different in size.

    Len
     
  10. IAmTheJody

    IAmTheJody Gillette-i Master Staff Member

    As always Len, very nice family of razors there! :)
     
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  11. Mechguy

    Mechguy Well-Known Member

    Wow, I didn't know this model even had a following. Before all the pictures were posted, I don't think I even noticed one that looked like this.
    Those are some real nice looking razors you have there. As you said the plating on the doors of mine is almost completly gone, but mine has sentimental value. I might start trying to find some more of them, I really enjoy the save they give. 13 hours, and still a better shave than I got from the carts.

    Thank you all again.
     
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  12. scott wein

    scott wein Well-Known Member

    What an education. Thank you
     
  13. GDCarrington

    GDCarrington Burma Shave

    Enjoy it, they really do give you a nice shave!
     
  14. shaveslave

    shaveslave Member

    the other distinguishing feature between the 46,47 and later models would be the presence or absence of notched center razor blade positioning bar; the 46 & 47 were unotched, the later models were notched-to be used with the newly introduced speed pak blade dispenser.
     
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  15. Oldguy

    Oldguy Member

    Thanks Jody. This is the first time I showed my Milords. And for those members that may not know, the nickel plated version of the 1940 Milord is the Ranger Tech. Actually both razors were introduced for sale for the 1941 christmas season according to Krumholz.

    Len
     
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  16. Mechguy

    Mechguy Well-Known Member

    Well, thanks for pulling them out and showing us. Vey nice pictues, and informative.
     
  17. CoinsAndMore

    CoinsAndMore New Member

    Here is a photo of what I think is a 1947 Super Speed (but reading the above post, might be a Ranger). At any rate, it does not have the notch.

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    Also, here's the head from a 1968 Knack, that has the notch.

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  18. IAmTheJody

    IAmTheJody Gillette-i Master Staff Member

    Since yours does have end caps but no blade notches, it's either a 1946 Ranger Tech or a 1947 Super Speed.. The way to tell which one it is, is by the handle. The Ranger Tech has a smooth band just above the TTO knob whereas the 47 Super Speed is fully knurled just above the TTO knob.

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  19. CoinsAndMore

    CoinsAndMore New Member

    Jody,

    Ok. Cool. Mine is/was a Super Speed then. The knurling went all the way down. I'll have to watch out for that.

    I should have my Krumholz soon, so hopefully, I'll get a little smarter.

    Thanks
     
  20. IAmTheJody

    IAmTheJody Gillette-i Master Staff Member

    Krumholz book is a fantastic resource but it does contain several errors and mis-identifications. Just know it's not an infallible source but it is a great and very useful source.
     
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