I ordered this knot on a whim. I don't mess much with badger because I have plenty of decent knots. It was a stinky one and I washed it out with a bit of Dawn. I don't know if this is the handle I'll use I just stuck it in for the pic. 22mm, 2 band SHD fan knot that's at about 47mm for loft. I think this is going to be a great knot. Sorry about the pic, too much reflection.