Melt and Pour liquid and foam hand soaps

Discussion in 'Soapmaking & Lotions' started by rodd, Sep 12, 2008.

  1. rodd

    rodd Knotty Boy

    I have been looking for alternate uses for my 10 lbs of melt and pour soap base, since my ADs have filled my cabinet with other options for shave soap. I found some recepies for liquid hand soap, and even for the Dial foam soap using melt and pour base. I thought I would share. I will try these over the weekend and report back.

    Liquid hand soap

    1/4 lb melt and pour base
    2 cups distilled water

    melt soap, stir in water, add color and scent if desired.

    Foam soap

    1/8 lb melt and pour base
    4 cups distilled water

    melt soap, stir in water, add color and scent if desired

    Seriously, that is it.


    The sites I read this on said that your base might take some experimenting to find the exact ratios, but it will work.


    Has anyone experimented with this? Any pointers? If not I will give it a try and report back.
     
  2. Queen of Blades

    Queen of Blades Mistress of Mischief Staff Member

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    Nope, haven't seen or tried those recipes before.

    I would think you'd need an emulsifier though.
     
  3. rodd

    rodd Knotty Boy

    I just made a small batch of foam soap. 2 cups of hot distilled water, 1/16 lb melted soap base. It is still hot now, so I have not tested it, but I will let it sit over night and see if anything separates out or if it remains as is. I saw several people talking about making their own this way, so my hopes are high. This batch is unscented, if it works well, I may try a scented batch.
     
  4. Queen of Blades

    Queen of Blades Mistress of Mischief Staff Member

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    If it's gonna separate it will do it after it's cooled.

    Keep us up to date. :happy088
     
  5. msandoval858

    msandoval858 Active Member

    Not sure if just water and soap base would be enough to keep it suspended in a liquid state without some serious seperation, especially cooling at room temperature.

    Liquid soap is a very different soapmaking process using potassium hydroxide and a cooking phase instead of sodium hydroxide (which is used in the manufacturing process of most all glycerin soap bases) but if it worked for someone well and your not out any serious investment, guess it'd be worth a shot.
     
  6. rodd

    rodd Knotty Boy

    Well, this is what I have so far:

    It has not separated, it went from a clear hot liquid last night to a white cloudy liquid today.
    It does not foam like the original stuff in my dispenser did, it does foam though. I am going to experiment to try to get the ratio right, but maybe it would have been a better idea to try the liquid soap first, since it's ratio does not need to be so exact.
     
  7. Queen of Blades

    Queen of Blades Mistress of Mischief Staff Member

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    Cool!

    pictures?
     
  8. soapbuddy

    soapbuddy Mistress of Lather

    I would think with that much water it wouldn't foam very much. But that kind of a formula does work with refillable foaming pumps.
     
  9. rodd

    rodd Knotty Boy

    Just an update, I haven't tried another batch this way yet, but I went back to the recipes and realized I may have made a mistake. I got the recipes from two separate people, the one to make liquid soap listed it as being made from glycerin melt and pour, the foam recipe listed as being made from liquid soap. I assumed I could just adjust the ratios and get the glycerin to work in foam soap, still maybe possible, but I will have to work out the ratio. On another note I did actually successfully make foam soap out of liquid soap. This is the recipe that worked for me:

    3 TBS liquid soap, fill the dispenser the rest of the way with distilled water, cap and shake. Works perfectly.

    I will try to make regular liquid soap soon.
     
  10. Queen of Blades

    Queen of Blades Mistress of Mischief Staff Member

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    Cool! Thanks for the update.
     
  11. JayKay

    JayKay 3000 posts and all I got was this lousy title

    Hmmmmmm.... So when they sell me foaming soap, theyre giving me 3tbs liquid soap and a whole bottle of water?

    Guess I wont be buying that again.


    Also, I went to marshalls and they have tons of italian and other tripple milled soaps that smell awesome. An always changing variety.
     
  12. Queen of Blades

    Queen of Blades Mistress of Mischief Staff Member

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    Well, yeah. You didn't know that?
     
  13. soapbuddy

    soapbuddy Mistress of Lather

    I agree. Save your empty foamer and make your own when it's empty.
     
  14. JayKay

    JayKay 3000 posts and all I got was this lousy title

    Noooo!!!!! I dont think that is common knowledge. I think we should start an anti-foaming handsoap campaign. I feel violated.
     
  15. Queen of Blades

    Queen of Blades Mistress of Mischief Staff Member

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    You'd be surprised how much water you've bought from big companies, like P & G.
     
  16. D.irving79

    D.irving79 Gemocrat

    ive considered buying melt and pour soap to use as shaving soap.
     
  17. rodd

    rodd Knotty Boy

    That is why I originally bought it, and I still use it for that, but 10 lb bulk purchase is not looking as smart as it did when I bought it. I was under the impression I would not develop soap and cream AD. :rolleyes:
     
  18. D.irving79

    D.irving79 Gemocrat

    i planned on sticking with this one type of soap from the lady i was ordering my soaps from (wild bayberry), but the recent bulk supply i bought was different; it STUNG when i applied it and smelled different than i remembered (this batch smells like HALLS cough drops), so i really think im gonna look more into the melt and pour, im just not sure which kind for my skin type yet.
     
  19. rodd

    rodd Knotty Boy

    Dave, I will throw a pound of it in with your brush, you can test to see if you like it before you buy then.
     
  20. D.irving79

    D.irving79 Gemocrat

    :happy036

    you rule. thanks so much.
     

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