I would like your opinions on which one is the better performer. The Proraso green tea & aloe soap (hard cream/soft soap), or Musgo Real?
If I could, and you'd let me, I'd like to give my opinion of them... notice I said "if"...since I've not used either, I can't give an opinion, but I do like the regular Proraso
What exactly is Triclosan? This is my reason for asking anyway, I just got an awesome deal on a box of 100 Astra Superiors. Before that, I had added a box of Crystals to my Irish Moos order at West Coast Shaving not knowing my son (jfever311) had gooten a box of Crystals already for us. So, I am going to see if John at WCS will replace the blade with something else. The Musgo is about $10 for a 100 ml tube. The Proraso GT&A soap is $8.50 for a 150ml tub. The product amount/cost ratio is leaning toward the Proraso being the better deal. But, if the Musgo is a substantially superior product, then the product/cost ratio is understandable. So, which one should I get? BTW. I am a big fan of Proraso red, AOS unscented, and Noxzema lather shave.
Triclosan I'd get the Musgo personally. Just like it better than Proraso. Though I haven't tried the green tea.
It's one of the most extreme antibacterial substances in this world with many potential harmful effects and absolutely no use in a shaving cream. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triclosan The difference between the Proraso and the Musgo Real is that the Proraso is a mass-market shaving cream (or soft soap) without any high-end ingredients whereas the Musgo Real is made by a small company without any potentially harmful ingredients. It's like comparing 2$/pound coffee to Jamaica Blue Mountain coffee.
Ummmm....I would think they have a reason for putting it in there. Most likely overkill, but it would certainly keep any nasties from growing in the shaving cream.
How come that 50 year old shaving soaps and shaving creams haven't gone bad? Because of the properties of soap. Nasties don't grow in soap. Proraso hopped onto the whole germophobic-train with their new shaving soap to satisfy all their customers that are sooooooooo afraid of every little germ and bacteria. Overkill par excellence.
I didn't say "go bad", which means spoil. I said grow nasties. How do you know the 50 year old creams haven't grown nasties? Soaps are a different matter. Most vintage creams I've seen have been in tubes, which would reduce the contamination factor. And progress in science has brought many synthetic and chemical alternatives to the forefront. Like I said, Triclosan is probably overkill, but it's the preservative Proraso choses. I'm not saying Triclosan is good, I'm not saying it's bad. Just saying there's a reason.
Triclosan is BAD. If you want antibiotics that still work in 5 years try to avoid buying anything that has it added to it. It's all about marketing "antibacterial anything" but they don't tell you the down side of having Triclosan in every cleaning product available.
I don't buy into the whole hand santizier, antibactierail warfare thing. People are crazy germophobic now and days. Not me. But I am sick of the blanket "That's bad!" talk. Read the whole Wiki article. Oh and make sure you don't skip over the mention of Old Spice.
Yeah, I know. But IIRC they also use other "normal" preservatives like parabens that would be more than enough for a shaving cream/soap. To be honest I'm far more concerned about trace amounts of drugs in the water that we drink, heavy metals in the air than we breathe and stuff like that. Stuff growing on my shaving soaps is very, very low on the list of things I'm concerned about. Our body is designed to fight stuff like bacteria and germs - its a too clean and too sterile way of living that harms us more in the end when our immune system is not ready.
Well, each to his own. For me, it's a personal decision not to use products that have extreme antibacterial substances in them when I don't see any real use for it. I don't burn down the house when I want t kill a fly either. For me Triclosan is a no-go and therefore "bad". If others see it differently, that's fine for me.
FWIW, when I first started shaving, my barber gave me a bottle of "Shaving Soap". Turned out to be a liquid that lathered when you whipped it. Ingredients? Triclosan, frangrance. So, you can shave with it. As for the question, I don't know, I've heard good things about the Omega soap. ..
That was the whole ingredient list?? Or just what they considered Active/Key Ingredients? Either way, kind of strange. If you're into it, read your labels, if you aren't, don't. I don't, except for shampoo (SLS). Yes, please, back on topic. Musgo Real cause it's a yummier shaving cream.
(Final OT--Yep, that was the WHOLE list. Scary, almost. As soon as I figured it out, I got a little queasy using it...but then my MWF showed up, and all was well.). It's funny, I have a tube of Musgo Real that I am scared to open. It's just so pretty...almost like spitting on a painting. I myself am keen to try the Omega White as well...maybe if I get some, I can do a comparison, as this isn't the first time I've heard them placed together.
I hope my homemade shaving soap turns out good. I'll only have to worry about the lye burning my face off
