When I was in London a number of years ago there was an outlet? store for brushes and shaving soaps. I cannot remember the name of the store, but I think it sold seconds. I was very happy with the brush until after a number of years it got stiffer and stiffer. I must have thrown it out because I can only find a badger brush that is from Germany now. It looks like a silvertip, but it could be bleached to look like it. It is not as nice as the English one.