I'm going to get a new brush very shortly. I've been reading for the better part of a month about the different brushes out there and think I've got it narrowed down. I was fairly certain that I wanted an SR 3122 but then I started reading a lot about Simpson brushes, mainly a Duke #3. Currently I have the C&E BBB but I want something a bit softer and around the same size, maybe a bit denser. I think I want the knot to be about 22mm - 24mm. How would the Duke compare to my C&E brush and the SR 3122? I've heard the SR is very soft but I haven't heard much about the feel of the Duke. The Duke's knot is of Best Badger hair while the SR is called Silvertip. I wouldn't think that 1 mm would cause that much of a price difference. Is the Duke Best the same grade as SR Silvertip? At this point I don't use soaps at all. Does one of these perform better with creams than the other? From what I hear, the CE BBB does great with soaps so that’s not very important in my decision making for this next brush. Thanks for any input!
I had a Duke 3 in best, and while it is an excellent brush and very aesthetically pleasing, I don't think its what you are aiming for. The loft is short, densely packed, and on the "stiff"/scrubby end of the spectrum. An ideal brush for soaps. Would it work good for creams? Heck yeah. But if you want a brush that is softer than a C&E Best Badger, the Savile Row 3xxx series is the way to go :happy088 Good luck
Any of the Dukes are great brushes if you use soaps. The Duke 3 is the only one I put to creams on occasion. It's a big bigger and not quite as scrubby feeling as the 2, but still very compact and dense. If you seek a brush that is soft and will excel with creams, the SR would probably be your better option.
Dont have a SR....yet. But my "new" Kent BK4 is great with creams and its a smaller knot. Somebody will chime in for sure. 22 or 23 mm knot with soft tips that lathers great and doesnt splay all over my face.
:rofl Rick, the man asked about Savile Row. NOW you had to go and mention the Kent. What are you trying to do set off SBAD :happy001 Anyway, yes I would also highly recommned a Kent BK4 as it is everything Rick says, but also works superbly with all shave soaps.
SR = Tight, soft, luxury. Kent = Flop, soft, luxury. They work for both soaps and cream, the SR may have more edge on Soap and the Kent would have more edge on Creams.
All I use are Simpsons (well... Shavemasters too, but different type of shaving) and I told the guy not to buy the Duke. How wierd is that
Thanks for the feedback. I'm going to have to put some thought into the Kent BK4. It seems to be a bargain at around 85 bucks when compared to the SR3122, which it seems to match pretty close as far as measurements are concerned. The only thing they didn't list at Kent's website was the exact knot size. Is there a reseller in the US or should i just get if off of kentbrushes.com?
I dunno. Its pretty easy to score one off a member round here ..................................................................Thanks again Rich
The SR is going to cost more, but it will also have much more hair. Much denser (but yet still soft, luxurious). the specs on the Kent BK4 are: Knot, 22mm, Loft, 60mm. handle, 50mm
That would be nice! Must resist SBAD... I like a dense brush. All I have to compare is an SR 101 and my C&E Best Badger. Is the Bk4 more dense than the C&E? I like to really work the lather into my face using circular motions. Would the Bk4 might be to floppy for that? When I first got the brush, it wasn't the softness that I liked as much as the density of if compared to the SR101 which was pretty loose.
If dense is what you want, BK4 is not your brush. It is less dense than the C&E Best. The SR, on the other hand will be multiple times more dense
James .... if you are looking for a dense brush, the BK4 aint really whatcha need. BUT. Since you were talking about creams I assumed you used a bowl to build your creamy lather in. When I go for face building lather I reach for my SuperChubby 1. That dude is THE densest brush around. OTOH...my Rooney SuperSmall 3/1 is also packed pretty tightly. SavileRows get a lot of good press, though. I hear the ShaveMaster brushes are good. Glad I could help