I had my first shave with the Stout brush from Fine shaving last night. It lathers great and has enough backbone to make me happy. This has a lot more backbone than the other Fine brush. It has a 24mm knot and 52mm loft with an overall size of 93mm. I used it for face lathering today and it performed just super. I will try it for bowl lathering on my next shave. I think the idea of a STOUT size is really a different experience. It is great brush and for just $25.00 it is a deal. The Stout brush is very nice and makes a nice addition to any shave den. Here is a link to it: https://www.fineaccoutrements.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=24-AH-R-WH