Two Old Sheffields

Discussion in 'Straight Razors' started by HolyRollah, Feb 6, 2017.

  1. HolyRollah

    HolyRollah BaconLord

    Two vintage Sheffield-made straight razors showed up tonight. Both are about the same age, similar size and region.
    The two are in decent condition, requiring only modest clean-up and honing.

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    The William Greaves' horn scales are showing signs of age with some fraying of edge and splitting at the wedge end. I'll eventually replace this set with some comparably-colored horn. Right now, the pins are tight and the blade closes comfortably. They've lasted this long; a little while longer won't hurt. :D
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    The other razor is by another Sheffield maker, albeit lesser known, Joseph Smith & Sons (in the SR biz from 1830 until 1886). This razor is solidly built and the brass hardware, lead wedge and black horn scale with "DIAMOND EDGE RAZOR' painted gold in stamped relief, are all in excellent condition, especially considering the age.

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    The razor does have an interesting blade! It is a heavy wedge grind, but...
    Somewhere in its life, someone ground a 1/4" wide concave channel along the spine on a single side, terminating a half inch into the tang (a 'lather trough' perhaps?). The channel is shallow enough so as its appears to not alter or impact the angle when honing.
    Interesting, no?
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    These both go into the queue for clean-up & honing.
     
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  2. Pilotcld

    Pilotcld Well-Known Member

    Those both look very nice. It's awesome seeing how these hold razors age so well!


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  3. Rusty blade

    Rusty blade The Good Humor Man

    Those look great Kevin. Good condition considering their age. Look forward to seeing them post clean-up!
     
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  4. Heljestrand23

    Heljestrand23 Well-Known Member

    Awesome looking razors, I'm sure they'll be fantastic shavers! Good luck!


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  5. RezDog

    RezDog Well-Known Member

    The fuller line was intended to lighten the blade. I have a Joseph Elliot with a fuller line on both sides. It predates hollow grinding and rattler grinds, I believe it was where the idea for the rattle came from, but everyone has theories.
    Both of those made very nice razors and those look great.
     
  6. HolyRollah

    HolyRollah BaconLord

    Yes, I can see the logic in attempting to 'lighten the load'—peculiar that only one side was treated in this manner (maker stamp side). I've always been a fan of these old Sheffields. Love the weight, blade shape and how they feel in the hand.
     
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  7. Rugger007

    Rugger007 Active Member

    Very nice razors. Hopefully one day I will get to own a nice Sheffield
     
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  8. HolyRollah

    HolyRollah BaconLord

    There's plenty of them out there from a variety of Sheffield makers. Many of the razors, however, are in pretty sad shape (not 'shave-ready' in the least), but if you come across one with the blade in decent condition, most are quite redeemable! :happy088:
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  9. Rugger007

    Rugger007 Active Member

    The problem I have found these days is everyone seems to think they can get rich quick selling razors, especially the old sheffields. Prices have exploded at a rediculous level, however there are a few good people who have them at reasonable prices. Unfortunately most buy from them and try to turn a buck and someone who sweats money doesn't think twice and buys them up. We'll see what happens, but hopefully with the soon to be resurrected Wade and Butcher the prices will be brought under control.
     
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  10. Jim99

    Jim99 Gold Water Shaver

    Kevin, those are nice finds!
     
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  11. Karl G

    Karl G Well-Known Member

    Is there something you know about this? :signs002:
     
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  12. Rugger007

    Rugger007 Active Member

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  13. Karl G

    Karl G Well-Known Member

    That seems kind of like the resurrection of the Indian motorcycle brand in the US. In name, sure. In substance, not really. I doubt it had any effect on the price of classic Indians. Nice idea, though. I hope he succeeds in making a quality product. However, it seems modern razors are pricier than the classics so keeping a sharp eye on eBay and the classifieds may be the way to go. I sold a nice 5/8 W&B some months ago for $45 on B&B so I can tell you first-hand they are out there. :happy088:
     
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  14. HolyRollah

    HolyRollah BaconLord

    Even IF the W&B line is resurrected, I still see the larger original (FBUs & the like) Wades still in demand enough to keep prices relatively high.

    I've owned several dozen W&Bs and some have been truly good shavers, but I discovered I've developed a real preference for other makers (also in relatively limited supply) such as Marshes & Shepherd, Greaves, Wostenholms, Fenneys, Reynolds, Rodgers, etc.
     
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  15. Jayaruh

    Jayaruh The Cackalacky House Pet

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    Kevin, your work amazes me.
     
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