Vintage Williams Question

Discussion in 'Shave Soaps' started by poppi, Mar 9, 2022.

  1. poppi

    poppi Well-Known Member

    Most think of vintage Williams as any with tallow as the first ingredient and rightly so I think.

    But now that Williams has been discontinued, aren't all Williams Mug Soaps now vintage?
  2. Kilgore Trout

    Kilgore Trout The Smart Bunny

    Interesting exercise in semantics. I would argue that the classification vintage in this case is contingent upon two factors. Age and reformulation date. The recently discontinued Williams does not qualify as vintage considering this criteria. I think we can now safely say that all Williams formulas are officially headed for unobtainium classification.
  3. swarden43

    swarden43 "It's your shave. Enjoy it your way."©

    No. The idea of vintage carries with it the idea of being old, not just recently discontinued.

    Even if they were still making the old formula, a puck made 50+ years ago would be considered vintage, the puck made yesterday would not.
  4. Kilgore Trout

    Kilgore Trout The Smart Bunny

    It will be interesting to see how our shaving world forum lexicon regarding Williams will evolve. For some, it will always be referred to as crap.
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  5. Kilgore Trout

    Kilgore Trout The Smart Bunny

    I find that true with Old Spice After Shave. Although many vehemently disagree. Same with the original formula deo.
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  6. Kilgore Trout

    Kilgore Trout The Smart Bunny

    It won’t break the bank.
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  7. jimjo1031

    jimjo1031 never bloomed myself

    Vintage used to be classified as being 50 years or older. But these days some say 25 years or older.
  8. Kilgore Trout

    Kilgore Trout The Smart Bunny

    Pretty much the standard for autos.
  9. SterFry

    SterFry Active Member

    To clarify, you don't notice a difference between vintage and "modern"?
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  10. brit

    brit in a box

    maybe the last 50 pucks made were full on tallow..;)
  11. SterFry

    SterFry Active Member

    Shaved with WMS today. I don't think there's a slicker soap out there.
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  12. swarden43

    swarden43 "It's your shave. Enjoy it your way."©

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  13. PLANofMAN

    PLANofMAN Paperboy

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    Correct. Antique is anything over 100 years old. Vintage is anything older than 20 years old, but less than 100 years old.

    ...and Williams, of whatever age, is still crap compared to even a modest and completely random selection of modern soaps. That's a hill I'm willing to die on. Lol. It's one advantage was it's low price.

    The fact that an authentic old time shave soap brand that was in actual stores, a lot of them, during a resurgence in people learning to wet shave and wanting to save money, still managed to fail, despite being the cheapest option of them all, speaks for itself.
  14. SterFry

    SterFry Active Member

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  15. swarden43

    swarden43 "It's your shave. Enjoy it your way."©

    JoAnna, our own Queen of Blades, makes it, thus the TSD name.
    Highly recommend it. click on SHOP at the top of the page under the banner.
    A great variety of scents, soaps, creams, aftershaves, balms...
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  16. VerbaVolant

    VerbaVolant Member

    I have never tried "vintage" Williams Mug Shaving Soap but the "modern" version was my first North American soap I used.
    From the very first shave it proved to be an excellent shaving soap, of exceptional value. Yes, its scent is pedestrian. Like its name, simple, unpoetic and uninspiring. Intriguing by the inclusion of the word "mug", but telling of the secret.
    Never let me down and always putting many others to shame. The lather is exceptional, in my opinion.
    Luckily, I am well-stocked.
    Oh, forgot to mention, I love the scent.
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  17. Paul Turner

    Paul Turner outside the quote(s) now

    Gary, is the "G" in your new avatar "Gillette", by any persuasion???
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  18. swarden43

    swarden43 "It's your shave. Enjoy it your way."©

    Looks like an auto emblem.
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  19. Primotenore

    Primotenore missed opera tunity

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    Never thought I could disagree with something so much. But...I do. (referencing the vintage, naturally)
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  20. Frijolero

    Frijolero Well-Known Member

    1966 Ford Fairlane GT to be exact.

    (No, no. I cheated and used Google image search.)
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