Which is the best Rockwell Razor?

Discussion in 'Safety Razors' started by Edwin Jagger Loyalist, Oct 24, 2016.

  1. Edwin Jagger Loyalist

    Edwin Jagger Loyalist Active Member

    I realized today I don't own a Rockwell Razor. Which should I start out with? I prefer mildly aggressive razors though TTOs aren't my thing.
     
  2. Jorvaljr

    Jorvaljr Operation Daytona 8000

    Get the original stainless steel with the 3 base plates. That way you can adjust your shave however you like.
     
  3. Lenaud01

    Lenaud01 Member

    Or if you want something less expensive, they have a new version that's getting funding atm might want to look into that. I have the stainless version myself for it hopefully will last.

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  4. Edwin Jagger Loyalist

    Edwin Jagger Loyalist Active Member

    Awesome! I just found the link and contributed.
     
  5. tuxxdk

    tuxxdk International Penguin of Mystery

    This.
     
  6. Demidog

    Demidog Well-Known Member

    Isn't there only one option at the moment? The 6S is the only razor that's readily available. The chrome series isn't out yet and the Model T won't be available for at least another 5 months.
     
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  7. blashe

    blashe Well-Known Member

    only 6s available at the moment and proven to be an excellent razor that goes from ASD2 mild to Futur setting 4-5 aggressive, SS material, very affordable considering what it offers. I got mine for $80 but that boat has already sailed, you can have it for $100 now and its a great deal considering it has quality build,material,shave on par with $200 machined razors.
     
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  8. Demidog

    Demidog Well-Known Member

    If the 6S went up in price, does that mean that the Model T is likely to go up as well? I haven't ordered it yet because the release is still so far away and I still need to sell some of my current shaving gear to put towards it. I see that they mention the current offering is preorder special but I assumed that the preorder bonus is just the 100 Rockwell blades and included shipping.
     
  9. blashe

    blashe Well-Known Member

    you should ask Rockwell that not us, we don't know what will Rockwell do in the future regarding Model T prices
     
  10. PickledNorthern

    PickledNorthern Fabulous, the unicorn

    My thought is that since this is a pre-order, the price is likely to go up some point after the release. 15 to 20 percent would kind of be a norm. Totally just a guess tho....


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  11. tuxxdk

    tuxxdk International Penguin of Mystery

    My guess is as good as yours, but I can't imaging prices NOT going up.
     
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  12. Darkbulb

    Darkbulb Cookie Hoarder

    As much as I rather like my two Rockwell 6s - I have to ask - what $200 machined razors is the Rockwell 6s' build quality on par with?
     
  13. tuxxdk

    tuxxdk International Penguin of Mystery

    None.

    There's no free lunch and although I find $100 a lot of money (not the same as expensive) there's a reason the other (the $200 ones) cost that much more. The visual quality is higher and with tighter tolerances (in general).

    I'm not saying the Rockwell isn't nicely made - it really is. But look closely and you'll easily find a small blemish here and there. It's just not possible any other way, the way they're made and for that price.
     
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  14. blashe

    blashe Well-Known Member

    See I don't think 1 small blemish kills it for me, but if I write and say why I sold bunch of razors that I tried and kept only few which one of them is the Rockwell, then all the fan boys will start panicking and saying no its not true the Rockwell is not better shaver than my fav razor...

    Just for giggles, I'll write on which razors Rockwell dethroned and I ended up selling them:

    ATT - I had ATT with all base plates, Rockwell was always as good in performance but much more smoother and in my opinion better looking considering the underside of the ATT cap finish, don't cry fan boys I know its machined razor but Wolfman and Razorock Wunderbar have perfect finish underside the cap and they are machined, and yes Roskwell 6s has no blemish on the underside, smooth finish. Price point Rockwell $80, ATT $300 ouch... sold it on ebay

    - ASD2 same exact shave as Rockwell on plate #1 but no option for raised aggressiveness, looks quality on par with Rockwell and cost double as Rockkwell. SSold it on ebay

    - Seygus brass, didn't even got close to Rockwell and costed $50 more, sold it on ebay.

    - Fatboy and Slim, performance up on par with the Rockwell but the Gillettes can only get up to plate #3 on the Rockwell aggresivness wise, they were too mild and not as broadband adjustability like the Rockwell, sold them both.

    - Razorock Wunderbar, this razor gives great shaves same as the Rockwell but it is not adjustable and not as comfortable as the Rockwell, didn't sold it because its my only slant at the moment and its performs good, still $50 more expensive than the Rockwell.

    - IKON with all the SS plates including the Slant plate, Roskwell just performed better and smoother, IKON with all add on was much more expensive, sold it on ebay....

    I actually liked the Rockwell so much that I ended up dropping from the preorder for 2 Wolfman razors, glad it changed my mind because after having some experiences into wet shaving no other razor touches the Rockwell, although I'm waiting on the Supply Provision V2 and see how that one stacks against it, it peaked my interest because price was same as the Rockwell + adjustable + SS material sandblasted. I finally understood its not worth spending tons of money on a much more expensive razors just because they are machined and they might not even shave better or perform on the same level as the Rockwell. Fanboys already panicking and try to rush type and explain how machined razors make all the difference, but it don't that's why I sold them LOL

    The only razor gets consistently on par with the Rockwell, its sort of adjustable is my Gem razors, well they are not adjustable but considering they are cheap to acquire and come in all different aggressiveness for example ( MMOC, MMCP,MMBT) sort of match the 6s considering they vary in aggressiveness. These are the only razors that are on par with the Rockwell of quality shave, comfort, adjustability and they did actually cost less, but the only reason for them getting on the level of the Rockwell is to be given to the Personna PTFE blade, if it wasn't for the PTFE blade the Gems would stand no chance against the Rockwell paired with GSB.
     
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  15. Darkbulb

    Darkbulb Cookie Hoarder

    I don't think the argument is which razor shaves better as that's rather subjective but rather if the Rockwell 6s, as you claimed, beats - or is at least on par with - $200 machined razors when it comes to build quality; " considering it has quality build,material,shave on par with $200 machined razors"
    Also, not sure to start off with making the argument that if people don't agree with your assessment they are obviously fanboys of the other razors is the best way to go - that quite honestly feels both rather demeaning as well as defensive.

    Out of the razors you listed I guess the only two that would be machined "around $200" razors would be the Feather ASD2 and the ATT - that the molded Rockwell 6s is as 'good as'.

    First let me say that I really like my Rockwell 6s - it's a great razor that gives a very nice shave.
    However, it is nowhere near the build quality in material and tolerances that you get from the CNC machined razors ATT, Feather, Wolfman, etc and when you put them next to each other that should become glaringly obvious. If it doesn't - then you might just be a Rockwell fanboy ;)
     
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  16. blashe

    blashe Well-Known Member

    First of all feather asd2 is not machined and lacked the performance because was too mild and I wasn't going to shim it every shave just for sake of keeping it.

    What you mean by better quality? Tolerances on the Rockwell are great, I never have to adjust the blade, considering its MIM mold it lines up from the get go.

    Build quality MIM vs machined chunk of steel, yes the chunk is stronger but this is razor.... I mean some of my electric tools gears aree powder gears aka mom molds and I have been using them with years....

    Sorry but no, there is no way that machined razor is better than Rockwell MIM molded just because its machined. The only razors that I thought looks good as the 6s is the wolfman, the new se one that just came out and time will tell if the supply provision is a better looking. But shave wide quality, no machined razor don't offer any more when pinned down the Rockwell, because the Rockwell is that much good + it's adjustable. This the Gillette and the Gems pinnacle of modern razors.

    I will never spend 200+ on a razor again, they all shave about the same or even under perform even though they are machined. I'm glad my rush for constantly spending money on something new is gone.
     
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  17. PickledNorthern

    PickledNorthern Fabulous, the unicorn

    My God kids. If you don't quit this bickering I am going to turn the car around, and we will just go home!

    Blashe - you said the Rockwell has a "quality build" on par with "$200 machined razors". Darkbulb just asked which razors.

    I don't think anyone is denying that they are awesome razors. I think some of us (myself included) would argue that they are not built at the same level of quality as ATT, Wolfman, Blackbird etc.... It isn't a knock, it's an observation. Casting vs machining; it's kind of apples to oranges.

    They are great razors, which at a very affordable price (I bought two), allow people to have a versatile shave that can adapt to everyone. I think we can all agree on that, which is the point of this thread.



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  18. John Ruschmeyer

    John Ruschmeyer Well-Known Member

    Well, considering that I can only tolerate up to about a '6' on a Slim, that pretty much tells me that I'm not going to be buying a Rockwell any time soon. :)
     
  19. tuxxdk

    tuxxdk International Penguin of Mystery

    You can't rate the Rockwells efficiency and/or aggressiveness based on its blade gap.

    The Rockwell on R4 has a smaller gap than a Tech but is way more efficient.

    The Rockwell has neutral to negative exposure which is very important to factor in when rating it. it makes for a very gentle but very effective Shaver.

    I'll play it safe and say that you can easily get a Rockwell and enjoy it.

    I'll bet my hat that it's not gap your skin can't tolerate (when comparing to a Gillette on 6) but the Gillettes positive exposure whereas the Rockwell has none of that
     
  20. PickledNorthern

    PickledNorthern Fabulous, the unicorn

    There is definitely a plate for everyone. Unless maybe if you are an R41, Futur or Ikon Tech guy. The 6 plate doesn't quite go that far. Mild to moderately aggressive guys are set.


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