Who is the world's oldest maker of....

Discussion in 'General Shaving Talk' started by Darkbulb, Oct 7, 2015.

  1. Darkbulb

    Darkbulb Cookie Hoarder

    I was wondering what brands - still sold today - are the oldest ones w/in;

    - Shaving soap/cream, and
    - Brushes

    Obviously formulas may have changed, production locations moved and holding companies switched - but what continuous brands are there out there?

    For shaving soaps/creams the ones I can think of would be;
    - Pears (est. 1789) - you can pick up a puck even today for 1-2 dollars,
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    When it comes to brushes it gets a bit trickier as "world's oldest" is a title a number of companies have claimed at various times.

    Some brush-brand contenders;

    - Rooney: Late 17th hundreds?
    I can't find any good data on when Rooney started making shaving brushes

    - Plisson: 1808?
    I believe Plisson might be the oldest, still going, modern shaving brush brand.

    - Simpson: 1919?
    (For those interested in the history of Simpson brushes this thread where a former owner of Simpson's answers various questions is extremely interesting).

    (Kent has been around since 1777 but I believe that they didn't make shaving brushes until about 1850).
     
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  2. RezDog

    RezDog Well-Known Member

    I think that Henckels was probably the longest running straight razor maker. A little over 250 years. They made a lot of very nice razors.
     
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  3. PLANofMAN

    PLANofMAN Eccentric Razor Collector Staff Member

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    De Vergulde Hand is probably the world's oldest shave soap maker. They've been making it for over 450 years.

    Pear's is the earliest shave stick manufacturer, and the formula remained unchanged until 1992. It used to be a fantastic soap.

    Shave brushes are a little trickier. Simpson's has been around much earlier than 1919, but that was when the company was 'officially' started. Rooney lost most of their records in a fire in the early 1800's, but the family was known to have been brushmakers in Ireland in the 1700's. Kent was originally a collection of shops on Kent St., known as brushmaker's lane. If you were a brushmaker in London, chances were you were on Kent St. The name of the road has since changed, but Kent remains.
     
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  4. Shaver X

    Shaver X Well-Known Member

    It looks like they still do. If I ever take up straight razor shaving, that is the one I would like to have. A local cutlery shop sold Henckels from way back in the day, and did a very brisk business selling them in recent years. Their quality apparently makes them quite popular with nearby college students.
     
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  5. PLANofMAN

    PLANofMAN Eccentric Razor Collector Staff Member

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    Houbigant's Fougère Royale is both the world's oldest Fougère scent (1882) and the father of the Fougère class of fragrances. It was also the first fragrance to include a synthetic fragrance, synthesized coumarin, which was 10% of Fougère Royale's formula. It was discontinued, re-introduced, discontinued, and re-introduced yet again. The Fougère Royale shaving soap has sadly been discontinued permanently.

    The triad of scents used in Fougères form the basis of the classic barbershop scent: Lavender, Oakmoss, and Coumarin.

    The oldest continually produced shaving cream is Palmolive. Palmolive tried 160 different formulas before choosing the current one, in about 1924.

    The oldest 'modern' shave cream is Colgate in 1918, who was also the first to package shaving cream in tubes.

    Barbasol made the first latherless shave cream.

    The oldest cologne is Farina's Eau de Cologne, first produced in 1709. It is still produced according to the original formula by Farina. It is the oldest continually produced cologne, and has been made in the world's oldest perfume factory since...1709.
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farina_gegenüber

    In 1806, Jean Marie Joseph Farina, a grand-grand-nephew of Giovanni Maria Farina(1685–1766), opened a perfumery business in Paris that was later sold to Roger & Gallet. That company now owns the rights to Eau de Cologne extra vieille in contrast to the Original Eau de Cologne from Cologne.

    4711 is almost as old, and has also been continually produced since the 1700's.
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  6. 211bma

    211bma Active Member

    You Sir, are one of the many reasons I read these forums so regularly. Thanks for participating.
     
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  7. HolyRollah

    HolyRollah BaconLord

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    Peter Daniel Peres was the first non-guild razor maker in Solingen. His company was the first known razor maker in Solingen—founded by Daniel Perez in Solingen in 1792.
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  9. PLANofMAN

    PLANofMAN Eccentric Razor Collector Staff Member

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    I actually hate it when people post threads like this. The last one ended up with me finding and starting to produce a shaving cream from an 1869 recipe.

    This thread has me waiting on a vintage and modern bottle of the Original Farina Eau de Cologne, 'Kölnisch Wasser.' I'm looking forward to trying a 300+ year old fragrance formula.

    Original bottle (used until the early 1800's):
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    Vintage bottle:
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    Not so vintage bottle:
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    I'm also waiting on a bottle of Farina Russian Leather, which if not the oldest version of Russian Leather, is within spitting distance...1750 or earlier. (That's for the formula, the bottle is much later, though still vintage.)
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    If I like it, I'll refill it from a modern bottle.
     
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  10. Shaver X

    Shaver X Well-Known Member

    First non-guild razor maker? So guild razor makers existed in Solingen prior to 1792? If so, how would their razors be identified? Just curious.
     
  11. Eeyore

    Eeyore Well-Known Member

    Soaps? Probably De Vergulde Hand, who are in business since 1554.
     
  12. blondblue

    blondblue Well-Known Member

    I like learning about products that have been around for a LOOOONG time.
     
  13. Eeyore

    Eeyore Well-Known Member

    Well, even if DVH already made shaving soaps in the sixteenth century, the formula for today's soap is undoubtedly very different.
     
  14. Eeyore

    Eeyore Well-Known Member

    For those who like classic colognes; try Cella.

    They claim to use the original 19th century recipe even today.
     
  15. blondblue

    blondblue Well-Known Member

    That is they key word....REFORUMATION.
     
  16. Darkbulb

    Darkbulb Cookie Hoarder

    Re-Forum-ation.
    verb (used with object), reforumate
    1.
    to forumate again.
    Urban slang dictionary :
    "Reforumation - the act of taking an original post on one forum and re-post in on another but slightly changing the content when doing so"
     
  17. Darkbulb

    Darkbulb Cookie Hoarder

    LOL I did the same! I however just looked..and didn't buy any.
    Yet.
     
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  18. blondblue

    blondblue Well-Known Member

    lol....and now I see that I meant "reformULation". Quite clever, Mr. Bulb :angelic007:
     
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  19. cmorris357

    cmorris357 catching flies.........

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  20. PLANofMAN

    PLANofMAN Eccentric Razor Collector Staff Member

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    I bought a vintage bottle of Farina's Russian Leather too.
    But does it come in a cool looking bottle?
     

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