Bench Grinders

Discussion in 'General Shaving Talk' started by Bookworm, May 21, 2017.

  1. Bookworm

    Bookworm Well-Known Member

    I just hit this site

    http://www.micro-machine-shop.com/bench_grinder.htm

    It's almost "grinder porn" in the way it's laid out. There's a lot of useful information, some good modifications to use on existing grinders, and a few warnings.

    Interestingly enough, I hit the site because I was trying to determine how to mount my drill to use as a buffer/grinder. I think I'll have to sit down and design it out, including a locking lever for the power switch, and a floor cut-off switch. It's either that, or get a bench grinder, and modify it to take a drill chuck so that I can swap out wheels. For those who are not technically (blue collar technically) minded, if you're polishing metal, you don't want to mix your buffing wheels. If you've used black (ebony) buffing compound on a wheel, you can't clean it enough to then later use white or blue polishing compound. So, you get a wheel for white, a wheel for black, a wheel for green, a wheel for tripoli (brown), and a wheel for blue. With a bench grinder, that's a PAIN in the tuchus to change every few minutes as you work over a small piece of metal. Big shops will have a row of the buffer/grinders, so that you simply move from one station to the next as you work along. Home shops rarely can afford the space for more than two - a buffer, and a grinder.

    Dremel tools are wonderful, but they're really not designed for working on large amounts of surface. Bench units are better for that, especially if you are wanting to finish in a reasonable amount of time.

    Anyone know where to find a locking stand for a hand drill? :)
     
  2. Bookworm

    Bookworm Well-Known Member

    Youtube video about making a drill grinder.



    Pretty simple and straightforward, but there are a couple of times I winced because of the "I have a hammer, that must be a nail" mentality.

    The guy also built a hand drill lathe.

    Personally, I'd advise that if you want to do this one, you lay the drill _flat_ so you can reach the speed adjustment on top (if it has one). Also, put in a foot step switch (emergency cut-off).
     
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  3. RyX

    RyX DoH!

    Hummm... I'm going to check that out right now!
     
  4. Bookworm

    Bookworm Well-Known Member

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  5. RyX

    RyX DoH!

    The proverbial Dead Man's Switch.
    What about a variable speed type? Would a sewing machine pedal donate it's controller? Rheostat or potentiometer...
    I'm very uninformed when it comes to modifying electronics.
     
  6. Bookworm

    Bookworm Well-Known Member

    The variable type isn't a good idea for cheaper electric motors. Brushless motors especially. Frankly, if you're using it for a buffer/grinder, once you've set the speed, that's what you want it to be. You don't want the speed to vary.
     
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  7. RyX

    RyX DoH!

    I'm thinking drill motor lathe. I think I have a couple old workhorse single speed drill motors. Having no experience using the machine I don't know what RPM is suitable for the job.
    I do appreciate the video you posted. It brought me right to the tutorial for build the machine I've been considering.
     
  8. DaltonGang

    DaltonGang Ol' Itchy Whiskers

    Hmmm, I have an older bench grinder, with duel grinding wheels. I guess I can replace, or switch out the stones for buffers, or other things to help her razor resort a tions along.
     
  9. Bookworm

    Bookworm Well-Known Member

    Yup - just be sure of the speeds. Also, you'll need one buffer wheel _per grit/colour_ of rouge/paste. You don't want to use the Ebony (metal removing, steel polishing) wheel, and then try to use that same wheel for fine polishing of brass with red rouge. One guy reworked the arbors on his bench grinder to add a drill chuck on one side to make swapping wheels easier. It also seems like the drill wheels are cheaper than the grinder wheels, for some reason.
     
  10. Bookworm

    Bookworm Well-Known Member

    Weird - I thought I'd posted up a reply to this. Use a set of stepped pulley wheels. That lets you adjust speeds without doing anything fancy to the motor or spindle. It's how older lathes and mills were constructed. (and some sewing machines)
     
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  11. RyX

    RyX DoH!

    I can already picture the setup. Rather than a drill motor I'm thinking a larger motor with low RPM & high torque. Then I can scavenge from a couple small lawn tractors for pulleys, tension springs, levers, etc. It may end up an odd Frankenstein, but I might be able to turn metal & wood.
     
  12. Bookworm

    Bookworm Well-Known Member

    Or hit harbor freight. I have the 4' lathe, and it worked very well for my needs. I still own it, but it's not at my house; not enough room.
     
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  13. PLANofMAN

    PLANofMAN Eccentric Razor Collector Staff Member

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    Just buy an old Shop Smith off of Craigslist.
    [​IMG]
     
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  14. RyX

    RyX DoH!

    That's a handsome machine. I'm afraid if it spent much time here in my bit of the South Coast all that shiny steel would be rusted stuck. No SWMBO to tell me otherwise, once I got it functional I'd keep it in my living room! ;)
     
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  15. Bookworm

    Bookworm Well-Known Member

    That's the original line. My grandfather had one of those. My father's is a later model, where the motor area isn't exposed.
     
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  16. PLANofMAN

    PLANofMAN Eccentric Razor Collector Staff Member

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    I had one of those (original line) when I was in high school. Not sure what happened to it, but I wish I still had it.
     
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