What's Wrong With This Picture?

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  1. Jayaruh

    Jayaruh The Cackalacky House Pet

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    Any sailors out there? How can this thing be? The Ship Grand Turk is full sails and moving forward. That means that the wind is coming from its stern. However, the flags are pointing into the wind. I assume this is some artistic license. Shouldn't the flags be blowing in the direction of the bow?

    By the way, I read that the Ship Grand Turk was one of the first ships to fly the "Stars and Stripes." old_spice_mug2.jpg
     
  2. david of central florida

    david of central florida Rhubarb Rubber

    forward momentum causing flags to unfurl to the back?
     
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  3. richgem

    richgem suffering from chronic clicker hand cramps

    witchcraft. ;)
     
  4. Jayaruh

    Jayaruh The Cackalacky House Pet

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    I may be answering my own question, and maybe someone can confirm or correct me. I am envisioning the ship is being driven by a wind from its port side and to its front. I would just like to see it in action. Sailing ships have always been kind of magical to me. The men who sailed the seas before power engines were amazing adventurers.
     
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  5. Omelmad

    Omelmad My printer email address is..........

    This. But yeah it's a bit weird
     
  6. Jayaruh

    Jayaruh The Cackalacky House Pet

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    If I could actually see it in person I believe I could accept it more readily. But, yes, zweird.png .
     
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  7. Redrock

    Redrock Well-Known Member

    Let's see...

    How many knots will the ship have to be going forward to overcome the effects of the tail wind and make the flag furl? :signs002: Nah, forget it. It will take too many brain cells for me.

    Happy 4th.:bounce017:
     
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  8. david of central florida

    david of central florida Rhubarb Rubber

    imagine standing on the deck.
    wind pushing the vessel.
    now take a small flag out your pocket.
    the wind pushing the boat, stern to bow
    boats clipping along a few knots.
    you hold the flag up, it flaps toward the stern.

    that's how I'm seeing it.
     
  9. david of central florida

    david of central florida Rhubarb Rubber

    not many. the sails are catching a lot of air.
     
  10. gorgo2

    gorgo2 geezerhood

    Tacking.

    [​IMG]
     
  11. swarden43

    swarden43 "It's your shave. Enjoy it your way."©

    That's the word I was looking for!! Thank you! :happy088::happy088:
     
  12. gorgo2

    gorgo2 geezerhood

    Aye, matey.
     
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  13. Jayaruh

    Jayaruh The Cackalacky House Pet

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    Thanks, @gorgo2 , seeing is believing. I would love to be on that boat/ship. I don't know when it goes from being a boat to a ship. Maybe you can enlighten me.
     
  14. gorgo2

    gorgo2 geezerhood

    My understanding (take it for what little it's worth) is that it basically comes down to size. Ships typically are deep draft for deep water, and so are much larger, or are otherwise designed for ocean sailing (think yachts). Boats generally can't safely go where ships can. How a vessel is driven has little to do with it; a boat can be manually propelled or sail or motor driven, whereas a ship is always self-propelled (sails, engines) due to their size. Feel free to fact check me on any of that, I could be wrong. I do know one thing new squids are hammered for is calling a ship a boat.
     
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  15. Rufus T.

    Rufus T. Late for dinner

    Having been a merchant mariner in a previous life, our rule of thumb was about size: a boat can be carried on a ship. If not, it's a ship.
     
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  16. gorgo2

    gorgo2 geezerhood

    I like that!
     
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  17. Jayaruh

    Jayaruh The Cackalacky House Pet

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    Sounds good to me.
    Sounds a bit confusing. So, if you can't carry it on a ship then it's a ship?
     
  18. gorgo2

    gorgo2 geezerhood

    I think he means, if it's too big to carry onboard another vessel, it's a ship.
     
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  19. Jayaruh

    Jayaruh The Cackalacky House Pet

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    Rufus T. Late for dinner

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