Aristocrat, Sheraton, & Senator: Gillette's TTO Open Comb Discussion Thread

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Just in from Back Roads Gold. Looks really nice in person, much more depth to the color. She cleaned up real nice. Looking forward to the (second) maiden shave. Outstanding result for an 80 year old razor. Great work by BRG!

 

looks awesome..

 

Thanks. Still waiting for the first shave... I hate to get it wet!

 

Proof the Sheraton was still being sold in 40 and Senator in 40 and 41 even though I would say they discontinued the Senator by Dec of 1940.

First ad is for the Sheraton this one is from the Daily Messenger June 19th, 1940. Which Aristocrat they are referring to is uncertain. Also notice the price for the Sheraton and in the main 1pc razors except for the Aristocrat almost always sold for around a $1.


Next up is the Senator first ad on the left is from The Anniston Star May 30th 1940 a
ad on the right is from The Evening Review Dec. 12th 1940
notice the price drop.


Finally here is an ad from the Missoulian Oct 14th 1941 for a the Senator still being sold at the same discounted price while other 1pc razors like the Ranger are at about $1.


I think we can conclude they were not only selling but manufacturing both the Senator and Sheraton for at least part of 1940.

Here are the full page ads.

 

Love these old ads!!

 

Does a re-plated senator in Rhodium increase value to lose value? Is a aristocrat worth the extra cost over a Sheraton or Senator? I’m going to bid on one of these just trying to decide which one I should go for. Any help would be appreciated.

 

Rule of thumb you are going to spend more on a razor that has been re plated than not especially if the seller has $ invested in that re plate.

Also it depends the Aristocrat.

 

The Aristocrat I’m talking about is the same kind as the Sheraton and Senator. Are you just talking about condition?

 

There are 3 types of Aristocrats that are open comb like the Sheraton and Senator. RTFT a page or so back first. The short answer without knowing is open comb Aristocrats sell in a pretty well defined range regardless or variant, condition or with/without cases on a certain auction site. Go check their sold listing for the razors and you'll get an idea what you will wind up paying when fairly priced and such.

 

I understand stand n I’m limited on which OC Aristocrat due to price on Ebay. I was looking at buying the senator replated for $110-120. Just making sure I’m not wasting my money

 

You shouldn't pay $$$ for a Senator or Sheraton unless they are mint condition collector pieces with the originally packaging or if you want a restored razor and don't care about paying the premium for it. User grades ones can be had at half if not more the price you are looking at depending the condition.

 

Rgr that thank you

 

Picture that should be posted here.
These are all the style razors I know they produced between 34 - 40 photographed together.



Dates are approximate

1. 34 - 35 Aristocrat
2. 36 - 37 Aristocrat
3. 38 - 40 Aristocrat
4. 37 - 38 Sheraton
5. 38 - 40 Sheraton
6. 38 - 40 Senator

 

I wished I had a collection that looked like that

 

Good Day to all Gents!
sorry to shake an old thread like this - but I'm sure you're familiar with it happening when a fella gets an antique store find.
I read on the price tag "1938 Gillette", It looks like a Sheraton/Senator, from the OC TTO doors, but I want as detailed a timeline pinpoint on this as I can get - so I don't misrepresent it. I'm gambling the guess, against my better interests, but more closely a better judgement - that I grabbed a '39 Senator - Why? - It's not riveted doors it's "strapped" doors. My question, more specifically is, what's my year, and what's the model to the mechanism design?
I'm not ignorant of the fact that we've all learned that Gillette has used spare parts from one year in next year's models, or in the lesser price-point models of the same year - for economical reasons of manufacture. I can accept that. I can accept that it may be a Gillette factory Franken-razor. Still. I'd love to know those finite points.

 

See my post here

Which one of the 6 does it look like.

If it is not riveted it is either razor 3, 5 or 6.

If it looks like 5 or 6 the way to distinguish for sure besides the plating is by the screw in the handle.
Here is what the screws look like

Razors 4 and 5


Razor 6

 

From the standup profile pic, it's going to be a#5, same thing with the bottom screw. I don't know why, but I want it to be a 1938, in a crazy way.

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When you say the Sheraton had three different heads do you mean the original 37 sheraton has the same head as the flatter profile 34 us aristocrat?

Or are we just talking about the hinge assembly mainly?

The photos don't work anymore.

Thanks