Back to basics: brush terminology

Discussion in 'The Brush' started by Sodapopjones, Sep 28, 2011.

  1. Sodapopjones

    Sodapopjones Well-Known Member

    Generally its Boars that benefit from breaking in as the actual tips split and soften up as well as loosen up; badger doesn't really break in except exceptionally dense brushes which loosen up in a few days.
     
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  2. Dan72w

    Dan72w Member

    Is there anything specific I should do when my new X2 Commodore arrives? Anything to prevent shedding like my current one does? Thank you again Aaron!
     
  3. Sodapopjones

    Sodapopjones Well-Known Member

    Dan when you get a new brush its either a shedder or not a shedder, I mean unless you're mashing the hell out of the bristles and using it dry it shouldn't be shedding.

    If you get a new brush and its shedding more than 3 hairs per shave after a month of ownership, imo its a dud and should be replaced.
     
  4. Dan72w

    Dan72w Member

    Sounds like a plan! Sick of me yet? Hope not, cause you're my go to brush guy!
     
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  5. Sodapopjones

    Sodapopjones Well-Known Member

    Dan don't worry, you haven't seen my inbox hahaha.
     
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  6. A. E. Simpson 1919

    A. E. Simpson 1919 New Member

    Unfortunately I'd have to disagree entirely.

    Our Simpson brushes are entirely handmade and go through several processes in their manufacturing procedure. Arguably the most important aspect of the brush is the formation of the knot, in our case hand tied, bundled, glued and set by trained artisans. Each knot may contain in excess of 20,000 badger hairs. As is the case with us humans, no two hairs mirror each other - they are 'all' different. Despite being sorted and graded there will be differing lengths in any particular batch. Not all the hairs in the setting process are picked up - they maybe short, they may have slipped through in the bundling or weighing process.

    It can take several months for these 'loose' or 'shorts' to find their way out - this is the nature of 'truly' hand made brushes.

    There are other telling signs when a brush starts to shed.

    It is often the case that mildew has formed around the base of the knot as a consequence of insufficient rinsing & drying (through decent ventilation). In this instance, the hairs break away from the glue as a mold forms. You can usually smell it through the normal product residue aromas.

    Shedding may not be just shedding ... Certainly not all brushes that lose hairs are duds - that is factually incorrect.

    Now we do make brushes that shed - it goes with the hand made process, particularly when we make hundreds of thousands of brushes per year. If it's a genuine shedder & it came from us directly or through an authorised stockist, we'll replace - without exception.

    Hope that helps a little?

    Mark
    MD - Simpsons / Vulfix.

    PS - HAPPY NEW YEAR ALL.






     
  7. Sodapopjones

    Sodapopjones Well-Known Member

    Thanks for the input Mark, I must have just been lucky with my 20+ purchases to only receive one bad knot out of the lot.

    I agree though that after several months of usage if something starts to shed, its probably the users fault, however.
     
  8. Dan72w

    Dan72w Member

    I am happy that my new Commodore x2 is AMAZING. It's lost like 3 hairs and that's it. Able to get a REAL lather for once, holds water nicely, nice heft, a little small for my hands, but no problem! I give it 5/5 for sure!

    BTW, I rinse, shake dry, brush my bath towel to get any moisture I can, and hang it upside down on a Razor/Brush stand. So hopefully I won't be hurting it. Only time I could think is pre-shave, I let it soak in my sink of hot water totally submerged. Would you not recommend that?
     
  9. Sodapopjones

    Sodapopjones Well-Known Member

    Depends on how hot is "Hot" and if you like your sticker or not haha.
     
  10. Conrad1959

    Conrad1959 Well-Known Member

    I just read your incredible September 28 post today. A wealth of in formation that answered several questions - Thank you.
     
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  11. Sodapopjones

    Sodapopjones Well-Known Member

    Cheers!
     
  12. Sodapopjones

    Sodapopjones Well-Known Member

    Finally added in "Bloom" and "Post bloom" as well as an advisory.

    Cheers!
     
  13. johnus

    johnus Well-Known Member

    Learned something. Thank you.
     
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  14. KLF

    KLF Doctorin

    Supporting Vendor
    Most helpful information. Thanks
     
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  15. wlmcad

    wlmcad cleaning TSD Route 5

    Awesome thread that has helped me understand brushes a lot more. Thanks Aaron!:)
     
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  16. Sodapopjones

    Sodapopjones Well-Known Member

    Added "Shelf".

    Cheers!
     
  17. prsman23

    prsman23 New Member

    Thanks for the great info guys! helping a newbie out!
     
  18. Grick

    Grick Active Member

    Nice one, but there is a difference between 2-band and 3-band: 2-band silvertips are stiffer as they have thicker hair. They are recommended for people who prefer a silvertip with more backbone.
     
  19. Lunakyra

    Lunakyra New Member

    More than id ever need to know but its great being able to understand a lot of whats being said. Thank you for your time writing this extensive dictionary!
     
  20. Old School

    Old School *$&%@#~

    Great write up...I'm shopping brushes and recently won a $75 gift card in a work raffle. They have some "art of shaving" brushes and in the write ups it said something about a partnership w/Gillette even. Anyway, what differances do you folks see from their "Pure", "Fine" and "travel" offerings? I'm leaning toward this one, but don't want to get ripped off....keep in mind it's a gift card so I don't have to put up all the money. Lets face it, $75 bucks at nordstroms gets you a pack of underwear! Thanks....
     

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