Bible Translations

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  1. swarden43

    swarden43 "It's your shave. Enjoy it your way."©

    I'm having my Bible recovered with real leather.
    Having Στρατιώτης της Αλήθειας stamped on the front. :)
     
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  2. jimjo1031

    jimjo1031 never bloomed myself

    Nice................
     
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  3. Jayaruh

    Jayaruh The Cackalacky House Pet

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    We were at the Family Christian Bookstore in Asheville, NC, today, and I found an ESV New Testament. It was listed at $4.99, but it rang up at $2.50. I was pleasantly surprised. I am liking the ESV, and it is nice to have the New Testament, Psalms, and Proverbs that I can carry in my pocket.
    [​IMG] ESV NT 2.jpg
     
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  4. cmorris357

    cmorris357 catching flies.........

    Is that "Enjoy it your way" in Greek? :lyrtuy5:

    For the record I'm joking. I don't know a lot of Greek, but I figured that one out.
    Stratiótis tis Alítheias
     
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  5. richgem

    richgem suffering from chronic clicker hand cramps

    Revised New American has some translational issues: "clean of heart" instead of "pure of heart," "dark valley" instead of "valley of darkness," referring to child as "it" and other small errors in part due to (limited) inclusive language which, at the very least, obscures some cultural context and background.

    Just to mention a few that come immediately to mind.
     
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  6. swarden43

    swarden43 "It's your shave. Enjoy it your way."©

    Correct - Soldier of the Truth
     
  7. NoobShaver

    NoobShaver BGDAAA

    Good points. I wonder if some of the translation issues are due to translation by non-native English speakers? Which leads me to wonder what translation is used in Catholic churches in non-English nations like Mexico, Germany, Vietnam, etc... It would be a lot simpler if we just went back to Latin.
     
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  8. jimjo1031

    jimjo1031 never bloomed myself

    Yep, or simply "Soldier of Truth". Either way works.
     
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  9. richgem

    richgem suffering from chronic clicker hand cramps

    As I understand it, the revised NAB was done as a "compromise" translation between a (mostly feminist) faction that was demanding a gender neutral /inclusive translation and St. JP II's (entirely reasonable) insistence on accuracy. (Hence, a child being referred to as "it" -- altho that's perfectly normal in Greek.) The other agenda, seems to have been to take out some of the "scary." Hence, "Dark Valley" instead of "Valley of Darkness." Clean of heart vs. pure of heart... who knows what went wrong there. One of the early drafts even referred to the Inn where the Holy Family stayed as "the place where traveler's stay" for some odd reason. I guess "inn" was too complicated of a word??
     
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  10. NoobShaver

    NoobShaver BGDAAA

    Hm. I compare the NAB to the NRSV, and the NAB, while far from perfect (and no translation is) is much more authentic to the original text than the NRSV. The NAB has some strange choices- like the "place where traveler's stay" example. I've seen others that are equally goofy. I wonder if they're trying to avoid anachronism? "Inn" today does not equal "inn" in NT era or some such. The "not scary" thing is super annoying. I served at a church where "suffer the little children" was etched around the lip of the baptismal font, which was positioned in the center of the aisle as you entered the church. I fielded multiple questions about that one- and it lead to some good discussions about the meaning.
     
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  11. richgem

    richgem suffering from chronic clicker hand cramps

    NRSV has a lot of problems. I may have mixed up my reference on the "inn."
     
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  12. MarshalArtist

    MarshalArtist Psychiatric Help 5¢

    It is true that the NRSV uses inclusive language because of their concern for its liturgical use; however, it is just as accurately translated as the RSV was apart from the feminine counterparts to various nouns being glossed into the passage. This really does not change the meaning of the text in any significant way since they provide a textual note that the original was actually just the masculine noun. And let's be real, even Nestle & Aland is a compilation of the various available sources. The original Koiné texts were quite varied in what they said--even within particular works.
     
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  13. Matt0210

    Matt0210 Well-Known Member

    IMG_0657.JPG If your goal is just reading the Bible I would go with either the NKJV or the NASB. If your looking to study it I would go with this one. I have tons of Bibles in different translations so I can even send you one if you can't afford one.
     
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  14. jimjo1031

    jimjo1031 never bloomed myself

    In Greek, it said Mary and Joseph were at a kataluma, which could be translated as a guest room. During those times, and for centuries afterwards, animals were kept in the lower room of a house for shelter, especially at night. Quite possibly Jesus was placed in a manger after he was born as there wasn't any place else to put him in. My thoughts, with a bit of help from a show I watched on the History Channel.
     
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  15. richgem

    richgem suffering from chronic clicker hand cramps

    Still more elegant that "the place where travelers stay." ;)
     
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  16. Norcalnewb

    Norcalnewb Magnanimous Moos

    I have to admit, I have never seen one of those. How does it read? Are the translations separated or are they aligned together?
     
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  17. HolyRollah

    HolyRollah BaconLord

    hopefully, it wasnt this one: Bible Secrets Revealed?— interesting 4-part response to the History Channel's show from 2013.
     
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  18. jimjo1031

    jimjo1031 never bloomed myself

    Nah, it was more on Christmas. It might even have been from National Geographic on PBS. It was a while ago.
     
  19. Matt0210

    Matt0210 Well-Known Member

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    Yeah the parallel bible is one of my most worthwhile purchases. The translations are aligned together all on the same page, it looks like this. They're pretty reasonably priced too. Mine was like $40
     
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  20. gwsmallwood

    gwsmallwood Well-Known Member

    I have adopted a practice of reading the entire Bible every year, and to keep it fresh and in an attempt to gain fresh insights, I pick a different version each year.

    When people ask me about translation recommendations, I usually recommend they go to the YouVersion app. Look at the verse of the day and switch between a few versions. Do that for a couple of weeks, making notes, and decide which you like best. Some of the ones I commonly use
    NIV
    NLT
    ESV
    AMP
    NASB
    MSG (don't recommend for serious study, but it's interesting when you're trying to get some additional clarity)
     
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