Brush knot making tools

Discussion in 'The Brush' started by Vlasta, May 16, 2018.

  1. Vlasta

    Vlasta Well-Known Member

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    Hi - does anyone know where I can get a set of the "cups" for forming brush knots. And... does anyone know the name of such cups? Or the terminology of brush making so I can at least search online?
     
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  2. TitanTTB

    TitanTTB Well-Known Member

    The cups they use after weighing the hair look pretty standard. Just something to hold and keep the hair oriented correctly. Then at around 50 seconds they move it into a form and tamp it down, I suppose, to get the shape of the knot before tying it off with butchers twine. In the second video they tie the base off with more twine before being glued into the handle. I don't think your going to be able to buy these tools anywhere, and you'll likely have to make a couple of forms out of wood or something.



     
  3. Vlasta

    Vlasta Well-Known Member

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    Do you happen to know the name for the forming tool?
     
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  4. jar

    jar Well-Known Member

    Contact Mark at Progress/Vulfix/Simpson. I bet he can help you or put you in touch with someone who has been making knots for a half century or so.
     
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  5. Vlasta

    Vlasta Well-Known Member

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    But why would a brush maker want to help me do something that takes some of their business? Anyway do you You have an email for him?


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  6. kfbrady

    kfbrady Well-Known Member


    Check out this link to Shavemac's website.

    I believe what you want is called a "Forming Block".
     
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  7. Douglas Carey

    Douglas Carey Insane Shaving Dude

    :happy096:
     
  8. jar

    jar Well-Known Member

    It's unlikely you present a great threat to Vulfix or Simpson. But Mark is also very dedicated to the traditional brush making craft and would almost certainly encourage and help you in anyway he can. Shaving brushes are still really a niche item and there is lots of room to grow. If you interest someone in shaving brushes then someday they will almost certainly buy more than one or try brushes from a variety of companies.

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  9. CastleShave

    CastleShave Well-Known Member

    Go on alibaba they will sell anything to anyone lol. Check it out I’m sure there called something else though.
     
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  10. Vlasta

    Vlasta Well-Known Member

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    Unfortunately knot!!
     
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  11. Douglas Carey

    Douglas Carey Insane Shaving Dude

    :happy102:
     
  12. oscar11

    oscar11 Well-Known Member

    I thought I heard a reference to them as "cannons". I don't where I heard it but I'm sure it was a shaving site.
     
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  13. CastleShave

    CastleShave Well-Known Member

    I saw this too they are actually using 20mm cannon shells aka bullet shells. If you can get your hands on them and 20mm is your goal that's great. Here in Canada we're not allowed to buy stuff like that. But I did read that some of these guys are making molds with PVC piping and copper which is actually great because there is many different sizes to choose from. If your good with a blow torch and a Dremel bit I would assume you can even expand the copper further. I'm not good at this so I wouldn't even attempt. I found a link that may help. Didn't know this was such a difficult task to find a 28 or 30mm cup.
    http://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-make-a-shaving-brush/
    Hope this helps anything I can do to encourage a new business
     
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  14. kfbrady

    kfbrady Well-Known Member

    I think you could make a forming block out of almost any piping. You just have to be careful about the actual size. For example 1" PVC pipe that I just looked up on H-D's website has an inside diameter of 0.878" which is 22.3mm. That's not a bad size for a knot. The next size up would be to buy a 1" PVC coupling which measures 1.125" or 28.575mm. If you intend to turn your own handles then you can make a knot in any odd size.

    If you had access to a UK hardware store like B&Q you might have access to a better range of mm sizes, just keep in mind that nominal diameters and actual diameters are typically a little different.

    I'd turn down a piece of wood to make a tight fitting plug with a convex face to match the brush shape I wanted (bulb, fan or flat top) and glue it in place inside the pipe.
     
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  15. DaltonGang

    DaltonGang Ol' Itchy Whiskers

    Or, you could have a machinist make it out of brass, any size you like, and Teflon coat the inside. I would do a 2 or three piece design.
     
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  16. Douglas Carey

    Douglas Carey Insane Shaving Dude

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