Enjoy a Feather... image

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  1. pcm81

    pcm81 Member

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  2. RyX

    RyX DoH! Staff Member

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    Not sure if I'm interpreting the image correctly. Are there four zones or facets to the edge? As you get closer to the bottom of the image and I assume the sharp edge, the zones get smaller. There seems to be a very fine line at the bottom I labeled "D". Added highlight in blue to make the edge more visable.
    four facets on a Feather.jpg
     
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  3. kfbrady

    kfbrady Well-Known Member

    I guess it's what I would expect to see under a microscope.

    Feathers have a reputation for being just about the sharpest blade around. I like them but I do find that the blade feels smoother after the first shave or two. I guess that's why some folks use a cork on them, or palm hone/strop them before first use.

    Unless I get sloppy and nick an ear lobe I have never cut myself with a Feather and I use my Fat Boy on 9.

    Gillette Silver Blues are another blade I really like. Not quite as sharp as a Feather but a little smoother.
     
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  4. pcm81

    pcm81 Member

    Generally speaking, when you sharpen a blade you do it in 3 phases. Grinding - rough stones that get sides generally close. Sharpening, medium grit stones, say 800-2K grit on JIS scale. This is where you form the burr and flip it. This is when the two sides truly meet forming the edge. And third phase is polishing. Polishing is a series of progressively finer grits which are meant to polish the bevel and thin out the burr. If burr is not removed, it forms a wire edge, which is an edge that appear sharp, but is very weak and will fold over after first use. After the two sides of the blade meet in phase 2 you should only be using trailing edge strokes. Using leading edge strokes will rip the burr off before it is thinned out and it will rip the edge off with it. Zone B appears to be the final bevel and zone C on your image is what i'd guess the edge should be but either there is still burr that is folded over or the edge got ripped off with the burr. In all honesty, by my knife sharpening standards i'd call this a crappy edge.
     
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  5. wchnu

    wchnu Duck Season!

    You mean a fatboy on 9 with a Feather blade is not a natural born killer!!:think002:
     
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  6. BBS

    BBS Well-Known Member

    They are coated blades and it also depends when they put the edge on the blade before or after coating. Feathers do not hold an edge well after the first use which leads me to believe they put the edge on after coating. Some other blades it is the opposite and they actually get sharper after being broken in. Bic Chrome Platinum blades are an example of this. They also hold their edge longer than some other brand blades. Gillette Nacet blades are just as good as the Bics and a little bit more sharper while keeping a consistent edge across multiple uses.

    One thing I was reminded of yesterday is the geometry of the head of the razor will ultimately make or break your shave not the blade once you have a shave routine that works. I was doing a 30 day rule and messing around with technique not getting the high quality level of shave I am used to with a VDH razor and blade I am not used to which is an Astra Platinum. Yesterday I switched the razor and stopped with the technique tweaks and all of sudden a vastly improved shave. It just took a better designed razor is all.

    Here is a site where someone did some testing of all this on different DE blades.
    https://www.refinedshave.com/
     
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  7. RyX

    RyX DoH! Staff Member

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    Good info there. Thanks for the link!

    A choice was made here at TSD - there is no DE Blade Forum. Not that it won't be discussed. There just isn't one place to confine that discussion. I'm guessing it devolves into arguments and hard feelings.
     
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  8. jimjo1031

    jimjo1031 never bloomed myself

    I agree, while Feathers are sharp, they do tend to be less so after shaves. While others get sharper and smoother with shaves..........
    https://theshaveden.com/forums/thre...-other-useful-stuff.52584/page-3#post-1539472
     
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  9. pcm81

    pcm81 Member

    Getting less sharp after a few shaves is the result of wire edge getting ripped off or folded over. It is my current opinion that feather blades seem sharp, because of not very well polished edge.
     
  10. Robert1955

    Robert1955 Well-Known Member

    I thought all de were chemically sharpened...every day is a school day

    Robert.
     
  11. pcm81

    pcm81 Member

    chemically sharpened??? whats that??? Chemicals can etch a metal, but they cant sharpen something.
     
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  12. brit

    brit Well-Known Member

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  13. brit

    brit Well-Known Member

    isn't that like engine renewer in a can ..
     

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