1stperfume.com has a great deal on Floris soaps. $10 for a refill puck of Floris JF, this stuff usually goes for $28.50 for a REFILL. When I ordered they had Floris Elite refills as well, but don't appear to have any more. The soaps w/bowl are listed at $15, but they are also no longer in stock. I got some of this stuff last week from this vendor and had no problems. I'd heard rumors that others have had problems, but I didn't. Ordered mine, and a week later they were on my doorstep. The soap they sell appears to be overstock/NOS from Neiman Marcus as my soaps all had NM tags on the boxes.