Honing Stones and Strop

Discussion in 'Straight Razors' started by jimjo1031, Jun 29, 2017.

  1. jimjo1031

    jimjo1031 never bloomed myself

    I'm asking this for someone's Grandson who is getting into straight razors. Basically it's this, what stones could he get at a good price? Maybe a set so he wouldn't have to order separate stones. Also what strops could he also acquire at a decent price?
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  2. 1976MGB

    1976MGB Active Member

    Great strop, $50 .. Tony Miller plain chocolate. Decent strop, Whipped Dog poor man's kit. Comes with a pasted balsa strop to help keep the edge between honing... $25, but will eventually want a proper/full size strop.

    As far as hones, that opens a while new can of possibilities. He won't need any at first, and should become proficient at shaving and stropping first.

    A good finishing hone ( Naniwa 12k ) would be a good starting point. Learn to refresh an edge, then to hone. A full set of Naniwa stones is a few hundred dollars. (1, 3 or 5,8,12k will be a good set)

    On the cheap, and functional.. king 1/6k combo ($28) Chinese Natural ( $30-$40 ) and a true finisher, like the Naniwa 12k, will get the job done. I originally used a king 1/6 and CNAT followed by chromium oxide pasted balsa with good results. However, now I have a full set of Naniwa Super Stones, and Shapton pro stones... So really don't use the older set up.

    And then there is Lapping film... Cheap, works well.
  3. DaltonGang

    DaltonGang Ol' Itchy Whiskers

  4. RezDog

    RezDog Well-Known Member

    If you want to buy once. Either a Naniwa 1K and a Naniwa 3&8 or a Norton 4&8. You can get a nice shaving edge at that point. For an added kick the Naniwa 12k or any natural finisher.
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  5. Spyder

    Spyder Well-Known Member

    A barbers hone from the bay will go a long way with just maintaining an edge.
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  6. HolyRollah

    HolyRollah BaconLord Staff Member

    Skip the stones and hones at first.
    Get a good strop.
    Have the razor honed professionally until one can master SR shaving. Once you know what to do with a straight razor and how to strop it effectively and efficiently, then one can possibly consider delving into honing.
    Trying to master all three aspects (shaving, stropping and honing) simultaneously makes the job considerably more challenging and frustrating, IMO.
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  7. Karl G

    Karl G Well-Known Member

    Stones can wait. Lapping film is a cheap alternative if you are just looking to refresh an edge (vs. setting a bevel and doing a full honing progression.) Get some sheets of 1 micron lapping film, a flat piece of glass or ceramic tile, a spray bottle, and you are all set. You can use some paste on a strop or a finer grade of lapping film if you want to put a finer touch on the edge than what the 1 micron will provide. Very small investment. :happy088:
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  8. Keithmax

    Keithmax Breeds Pet Rocks

    I started without any stones, just a strop and pasted balsa strop. I agree just learn to shave first, learning to hone is harder than learning to shave, at least it is for me. In the beginning if he needs to fix the edge send it to a pro, while you are learning to shave you need to know your edge is good.
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  9. gssixgun

    gssixgun At this point in time...

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    My goto recommendation for a Strop has been the same for many many years now

    Illinois #827 or #127 same strop different finish

    #827 is a Russian rougher finish with a heavy draw that I personally love
    #127 is a slicker smoother draw that works just fine especially for a beginner

    They both have a fine weave linen component that actually works and works VERY well after it is broken in ..

    They should be under $50 delivered to the door

    There is a huge thread about Hones and what each user needs on here in the sticky on SR shaving, but I also don't think a hone in a beginners hands helps the learning curve in the least..
    Stropping is a much over looked skill mostly because people rush to the hones :(
  10. DaltonGang

    DaltonGang Ol' Itchy Whiskers

    I can vouch for the 827. It's a very good strop.
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  11. HolyRollah

    HolyRollah BaconLord Staff Member

    Agreed. Affordable & quality. Built-to-last.

    All these strop postings have me re-reading my typed input as auto-correct has me constantly advising newcomers to "....strip before each shave"....:o:rolleyes005::D
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  12. mrchick

    mrchick Odd, Terrible Avatar

    Makes sense to me. I always strip first
  13. cmorris357

    cmorris357 catching flies.........

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  14. Bookworm

    Bookworm Well-Known Member

    I don't see the problem. I tend to shave in the shower.
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