Let's Talk Arkansas Stones

Discussion in 'Straight Razors' started by DaltonGang, Mar 17, 2017.

  1. Drygulch

    Drygulch Snowballs

    Is anyone in this group burnishing their Blacks or Translucents?
     
  2. DaltonGang

    DaltonGang Ol' Itchy Whiskers

    I did, with the Surgical Black Arkie. One side 600 grit Silica Carbide, the other side 1000 grit Silica Carbide. It works great. The 600 grit makes it a good progression, to the 1000 grit side. Definitely faster than just going straight to the 1000.
     
  3. Drygulch

    Drygulch Snowballs

    Most groups that talk about Arkansas stones talk about getting them lapped, then using an old carbon steel knife or chisel to burnish the surface until they are like glass. I did this on my Translucent, but have not done it on my black one yet.
     
  4. twhite

    twhite Peeping Tom

    Yes I burnished mine with an old razor.


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  5. DaltonGang

    DaltonGang Ol' Itchy Whiskers

    No, I didn't do that. The 1000 grit gets it smooth enough. I don't see a need for any more.
     
  6. Billyfergie

    Billyfergie The Scottish Ninja

    I Never Felt the Need to Burnish My Translucent nor My Surgical Black for Honing Razors..I Just Lapped them..I Haven't Noticed Much if Any Difference on the Performance of Both Stones with Use..In Other Words..If there is a Breaking In Period as Some Suggest I Sure Haven't Noticed it..:D

    Billy..:chores016:
     
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  7. JohnDB

    JohnDB Well-Known Member

    Considered it...But decided to wait for the carbides to show up.
     
  8. Bjoerge Brathagen

    Bjoerge Brathagen Well-Known Member

    saved by the grait people“s republic of China again.cheap as chips and free shipping:cool:
    what grits are needed? think i am going to lap the underside of the Zulu aswell and has a Llyn idwall that could need some work too.
     
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  9. Billyfergie

    Billyfergie The Scottish Ninja

    My Research on these Arkansas Stones Suggests that the Guys that Honed Heavy Tools on them Burnished them to Get Rid of the Smooth Glass Like Finish So they Would Cut Faster..Well..For Me..I Want to Retain that Glass Like Finish for Finishing Razors..Bearing in Mind these Stones are Mostly Used for Heavy Tooling..:)

    Billy..:chores016:
     
  10. Drygulch

    Drygulch Snowballs

    My understanding was the burnishing was actually putting the smooth glass finish on them, not removing it. I used some leatherworking tools to do it on my translucent. I did notice it slowed down the cutting, but made the finished edge finer. Now I am going to have to play with doing one side a little rougher and seeing if that speeds things up.
     
  11. DaltonGang

    DaltonGang Ol' Itchy Whiskers

    Start lower grit, to flatten it out, then progress from there. The final finish is up to you. I stopped at 1000.
     
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  12. JohnDB

    JohnDB Well-Known Member

    Here's a link for conversion for American/Canadian grit sizing.

    LINK
     
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  13. Spyder

    Spyder Well-Known Member

    I just lapped mine. Seems pretty smooth, for a rough old codger like me:)
     
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  14. Drygulch

    Drygulch Snowballs

    Kitchen knife I sharpened a few weeks ago on my Arkansas progression bit me today. Have to say, it was a smooth cut. Didn't realize it was actually a cut until I started bleeding. Noticed again when I put aftershave in my hand and it got in the cut.
     
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  15. JohnDB

    JohnDB Well-Known Member

    Ok... Progress


    Well I was going to share pics but the site seems to be having issues.

    But this black Arkansas is really hard. I've been at it a while now and I've almost got one side lapped with 220 grit. But it's as almost a race to see which one will wear out first...The piece of granite/marble or my arm. The Arkansas stone? It's gonna last much longer than either. Still got grid lines and I've been at it for 40 minutes.
    Most are gone...And they have been disappearing. But just one or two left.
     
  16. Billyfergie

    Billyfergie The Scottish Ninja

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    :rofl:

    Billy..:chores016:
     
  17. DaltonGang

    DaltonGang Ol' Itchy Whiskers

    :happy097:
    Wax On, Wax Off.
    I feel for you, really. When one arm would tire, I would use the other. Also, refresh the grit, often, with sprinkles of water, often.
     
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  18. JohnDB

    JohnDB Well-Known Member

  19. Billyfergie

    Billyfergie The Scottish Ninja

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    :happy097:

    Billy..:chores016:
     
  20. JohnDB

    JohnDB Well-Known Member

    IMG_20170405_164417415~2.jpg IMG_20170405_174159550~2.jpg

    Now this is all with 220 grit...
    Whew. If you look close you can see the remaining grid lines on the arkie.

    I finally got the last on one side.

    The granite tile...I used the rough backside with all the tool marks. It's gonna be polished by the time things are done.
     

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