Need Help identifying

I need some help identifying these two Gillette's I found The above doesn't have a code

I read the below code as a P2

 

On the ones with the black plastic the date code is on the inside of the blade tray under the doors

 

I saw V so I think that makes it a 1975? With the other being a P, does that mean it's a 1970? The other question is are they both black beauties, or just the one with the black plastic base?

 

They are both Black Beauties, and your dates are correct.

 

Also just an FYI based on your WTB post, I'm pretty sure that the only adjustable made in 1963 was the slim

 

BTW there is a nice 63 slim on ebay right now with with a very decent BIN price

 

Some do, some don't. Mine doesn't.
@PLANofMAN. Hey, Ryan. Where's that info you had on these?

 

I don't think the one with a plastic base is 1975. They were still metal, the plastic didn't start until 1977.

 

I'm looking and watching a couple of them and trying not to buy them all, but only the one that looks the best, but it's hard and tempting

 

I sense a case of the RAD about to begin.

 

Good thing I'm not drinking

 

But I did pull the trigger on the BIN 63 slim

 

Just thought I'd point out that "Black Beauty" is a nick name & not used by Gillette, just like double ring, single ring, black tip, flare tip, red tip, blue tip, fat boy, slim.....

 

Also known as Black Handle Super Speed Adjustable...yes?

 

Super 109 or Super 84

 

I get great shaves from my Short handle Super (R2). Just as good as my Slim Adjustable (L2). In my opinion, the Super Adjustable, especially the short, is one of Gillette's best looking razors.