No Variation November - A TSD Challenge

Discussion in 'General Shaving Talk' started by Bama Samurai, Oct 23, 2015.

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Can you stick to one kit for 30 Days?

Poll closed Oct 31, 2015.
  1. Yes! I can do anything for a month!

    28.9%
  2. No. I like variety too much.

    35.6%
  3. Hah!! I see right through this, Samurai is promoting 30 Day Rules!!

    20.0%
  4. I am just here for the cookies.

    15.6%
  1. Bama Samurai

    Bama Samurai with Laser-like Focus

    Very good! I add soap if needed also. Glad it worked out!
     
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  2. Bama Samurai

    Bama Samurai with Laser-like Focus

    It's my personal feeling that aggressive can be smoother and easier, but the penalty for having poor technique is much higher.
     
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  3. Bama Samurai

    Bama Samurai with Laser-like Focus

    39 Days hath NOVember!!
     
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  4. Marverel

    Marverel Well-Known Member

    Hey Chris - well, you read about the difficulties I'm facing trying to get a decent amount of lather from my Semogue brush. And since you can't blame everything on your equipment, a few new insights from more experienced people about technique wouldn't hurt ;)

    Another thing is the pressure. I tend to use quite a bit while lathering, so that the brush splays on my face. But I read that some people recommend less pressure and paint strokes instead of circular motions (which even some brush makers discourage from doing). So I was just wondering: Is there a better way to do it than mine?

    But I guess one can just worry too much and I should just focus on the things that work for me.

    I never tried cold water btw - I either shave after my morning shower or I just wash my face with lukewarm water. That's all the preparation I need.
     
  5. Marverel

    Marverel Well-Known Member

    I have a similar problem area. For me it's the spot where the skin under the nose meets the lip and the corner of my mouth. Funny thing is: It's just the left side of my face that's giving me trouble. I guess I sometimes just screw up the angle - I have to really concentrate on what I'm doing there, so I don't peel off my skin.
     
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  6. Bama Samurai

    Bama Samurai with Laser-like Focus

    In your particular instance, the Semogue itself may be the problem. Boar requires a break in period of 30-50 shaves before it shows its potential. Boar bristle tips will split into multiple this strands and soften. This increases the effective bristle surface area by a large factor, and makes the brush far more efficient at beating air into soapy water. After a sufficient break in period, a little water ratio experimentation to suit your taste, the Semogue will virtually guarantee good lather.

    The point of making lather is more than just glide and cushion for the blade bevel against the skin. Lather, when applied with a brush, serves to suspend the hair shaft in foam above the skin surface. This allows the blade to attack the hair shaft in a more perpendicular alignment, and ideally, allows the blade to break the surface of the hair and snap it off cleanly. If the lather is cold, the combination of alkali soap and cool temperature will also make the hair itself brittle, and easy to cut. The keratin in hair softens with moisture and heat, and ymmv, but I think that is less than optimal, and can lead to irritation from trying too hard to cut slippery and soft hair. For these reasons, I use cold water and paint strokes, always making sure that my last stroke before lifting the brush is against the grain (to lift the hair and suspend it for easy removal).

    I am not big on prep either, though my water choice is truly cold. The tap water in Colorado at my ranges from 34F in early spring to about 51F in early fall.
     
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  7. Marverel

    Marverel Well-Known Member

    That's an interesting theory. I think I will give it a try some time.

    Yeah, that's what I usually do at the end of every lathering pass.

    Okay - so at the end of NOVember the Semogue will either work like a charm or I'll know that my technique is in great need of improvement ;) Apart from that I really like the boar - much better than the cheap badger I bought when I started using soap and cream instead of canned goo. I think about buying a second one, either the SOC boar or the 1460. On the other hand - I just ordered the Stirling Synthetic and a High Mountain badger brush from WD, so I should have pretty much covered all of my brush requirements...
     
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  8. Tdmsu

    Tdmsu Well-Known Member

    Does not shaving count as no variation?
     
  9. Marverel

    Marverel Well-Known Member

    11/6/2015 - The day I almost made it ;)

    The setup:

    - D.R. Harris Sandalwood
    - Semogue 620
    - Mühle R89
    - Gillette Silver Blue (#5)
    - Proraso White ASB


    Yay - almost :)
    This time I started with a little more water in the brush and a generous helping of soap - and I got almost enough lather for 2 passes. Next time, the Semogue and I will nail it!
    Other than that: Great shave, just a tiny little scraper on my left chin (had been sloppy with pressure and angle). But the blade is now past it's prime, I guess. New one next time.

    So next week, when the brush is broken in properly, I can concentrate on achieving a BBS shave in 2 passes. I still need 3 for an absolutely perfect shave, though 2 are sufficient for DFS. There's one area under my chin where the hair is growing in every possible direction and I still haven't figured out how to clean that in just 2 passes.

    On the other hand ... maybe I should NOT strive for perfection here. I'd deprive myself of the necessity to shave every day, because a BBS shave suffices for at least 2 days. ;)
     
  10. Joef

    Joef Well-Known Member

    Well time told the tale, ingrown on my lower neck this morning. I kept the head of the razor on my skin, small strokes and light pressure. For the pressure, I kind of treated it like I was golfing. Slicing away the lather
    Like swinging at the ball making sure I didn't leave a divot. I can't figure out what I'm doing wrong. Can it be that my skin will no longer tolerate atg? Or can it be in my equipment or lather?
     
  11. CyanideMetal

    CyanideMetal Wild and crazy guy

    How old are you? Is your beard changing to gray? Sounds like it may be either the blade needs replacing or the angle of the razor head angle is too wide.
     
  12. Jayaruh

    Jayaruh The Cackalacky House Pet

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    The Tabac Shaving Soap face-lathered well with my Jayaruh #27 Silver Tip brush. Two passes with my Gillette Super Adjustable razor on 8 and an Astra Super Platinum blade gave me a close, comfortable shave. After a cold water rinse, alum block, and a final cold water rinse, I finished off with Thayers Lemon WH and then Aqua Velva after shave. I am clean, smooth, and refreshed...

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    Last edited: Nov 6, 2015
  13. Hodge

    Hodge Well-Known Member

    Day 6 - No Variation
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    Tried some different lather teqhniques this morning based on what Id read in the other thread. I used cold water and painted atg, rather than wtg for my last stroke before putting blade to face. I will have to give it a couple days to really get an opinion but it seems promising. All my shaves have been pretty good this month so its hard to tell if theres much improvement.
     
  14. Joef

    Joef Well-Known Member

    I'm 44 and the grays are slowly but surely setting in. I'd say about 30% gray. As far as the razor head, what do you mean by too wide of an angle?..... Still a newbie
     
  15. obturador

    obturador Active Member

    I'm with you when I got atg bad things happen. Ive completely stopped ATG and I'm sticking WTG till it all clears up. Don't know if this will help but I've been exfoliating, using hot wet towels, witch hazel and tea tree lotion in between shaves to help bring the redness, swelling, and irritation down. It's been helping me.
     
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  16. mrchick

    mrchick Odd, Terrible Avatar

    +1
     
  17. Joef

    Joef Well-Known Member

    I've been doing similar, warm tag and glycerin/grape seed oil soap, witch hazel then tend skin. At night a good coat of unrefined Shea butter. It does help a lot. Thanks for the input. All the help and knowledgeable is greatly appreciated.
     
  18. Bama Samurai

    Bama Samurai with Laser-like Focus

    If you do it for a ;) whole month!
     
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  19. Bama Samurai

    Bama Samurai with Laser-like Focus

    I agree with you. 2 passes are "good enough" for most days, and most days I stick to that. The Semogue should continue to improve all month.
     
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  20. Bama Samurai

    Bama Samurai with Laser-like Focus

    I would suggest to back if the prep, especially the exfoliation. Ymmv, but you may actually be making things worse by over prepping.
     

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