Proraso pro vs Omega 49 vs 48.

Discussion in 'The Brush' started by Lord Gillette, Oct 13, 2018.

  1. Lord Gillette

    Lord Gillette Active Member

    Which is the better of the 3 for face lathering cream? I prefer backbone and no flopping.

    And are these too big for face lathering?
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  2. wristwatchb

    wristwatchb wristwatch "danger" b

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  3. Primotenore

    Primotenore missed opera tunity

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  4. Lord Gillette

    Lord Gillette Active Member

    he's a brush maker? The 10098 looks really good but isn't the handle too long?
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  5. wristwatchb

    wristwatchb wristwatch "danger" b

    @Jayaruh makes custom handles and a few of us have adopted his brushes. My Omega knot was "harvested" from an OEM Omega handle. I have several brushes with different size handles. Everyone's different, but the long handle on the '98 knot works well for me. Here's a few of my brushes.
    Brushes 1.jpg Brushes 2.jpg
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  6. Lord Gillette

    Lord Gillette Active Member

    That's a nice collection. And the wooden one looks really great.

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  7. wristwatchb

    wristwatchb wristwatch "danger" b

    Thanks. I've tried a few other brushes, but these are the ones in my current rotation. This brush will be going into my rotation soon. In the mix, I have one boar, one synthetic, and five badgers. It's a modest rotation compared to many other folks here.
  8. Lord Gillette

    Lord Gillette Active Member

    I've got 2 cheap omega boars but I like them a lot.
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  9. Primotenore

    Primotenore missed opera tunity

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    Jim also set the Omega 49 into my Rubberset. Couldn't be happier.
  10. RyX

    RyX DoH! Staff Member

    I'm a fan of Omega knots. The black handle (left) is a #10098 about three years old and doing fine.Put a new #10098 knot in a Rubberset 400 type handle (middle). The shorter brush is an Omega #20248 (right) - boar dyed to look like badger.
    Omega knots.gif
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  11. Lord Gillette

    Lord Gillette Active Member

    Is the dyed boar softer and floppier than the undyed ones?
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  12. brit

    brit in a box

    i have a 10098 and a 10005 .like them both. want to install a 10098 boar knot in my rr 400 as well..
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  13. Enrico

    Enrico Popcorn

    I have an Omega 40033 with no complaints.
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  14. RyX

    RyX DoH! Staff Member

    Not when it was new. I enjoy the scrubby feeling of a new boar brush. This #20248 was quite stiff and took a good month before it got to the softness of a new Semogue boar brush. In my ignorance I attempted a cleaning procedure that softened it even more - a short soak in diluted vinegar (Acetic acid). It didn't ruin the brush, but I missed the way it felt before that treatment. It never became floppy like a badger brush.

    Check the inside opening of the RR handle before you purchase your donor Omega. I've only transplanted one, but the glue plug that holds the bristles flared out at the bottom. A little sanding reduced it to a tight fit, and it's held with silicone in case I ever need to change the knot. I gathered a list of Omega knot sizes. If anyone wants it, PM me.
  15. brit

    brit in a box

    awesome thank you.
  16. Lord Gillette

    Lord Gillette Active Member

    Strange, but the dyed boar I have from omega is soft and floppy and doesn't hold enough lather compared to my blondes. I've chucked it away in the drawer. Maybe I'll pif it someday.
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  17. Lord Gillette

    Lord Gillette Active Member

    Anyone using the proraso? Looks the best out of the 3 for me because of the shorter loft.
  18. RyX

    RyX DoH! Staff Member

    I purchase an Omega that came in a Marvy box. I wonder if Proraso does the same - buy Omegas and sell them as theirs? Someone asked about the different diameter and lofts of Omegas so I gathered some info. Here are numbers on just part of the models available from one website.

    10098 27mm X 65mm
    81064 27mm X 59mm
    10049 25mm X 63mm
    20102 26mm X 59mm
    10108 27mm X 60mm
    10015 22mm X 45mm
    10810 23mm X 50mm
    10048 27mm X 65mm
    10051 23mm X 51mm
    80097 24mm X 55mm
    10066 24mm X 54mm
    10290 21mm X 51mm
    11137 24mm X 56mm
    11148 23mm X 55mm
    20106 27mm X 68mm
    11574 23mm X 56mm
    31073 23mm X 57mm
    80005 24mm X 56mm
    80080 25mm X 58mm
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  19. Lord Gillette

    Lord Gillette Active Member

    The proraso dimensions are not listed here. And this is the data for most omega boars I have.

    Brand Model Ht x Loft x Base x Knot in MM

    Omega 10005 110x55x55x24

    Omega 10015 96x49x47x20 ###

    Omega 10018 103x50x53x23 ###

    Omega 10019 103x50x53x23 ###

    Omega 10029 103x59x53x23

    Omega 10048 133x70x65x28

    Omega 10049 128x65x63x27

    Omega 10051 93x51x42x23

    Omega 10065 105x54x51x24

    Omega 10066 105x54x51x24

    Omega 10072 105x51x54x22

    Omega 10075 94x49x45x22 ###

    Omega 10077 98x50x48x22 ###

    Omega 10081 109x56x53x23

    Omega 10083 128x64x64x26

    Omega 10098 145x65x80x27

    Omega 10099 100x48x52x21 ### $3.50

    Omega 10104 113x55x58x27

    Omega 10105 114x56x58x23

    Omega 10218 103x51x52x22

    Omega 10219 103x51x52x22

    Omega 10275 93x48x45x21

    Omega 10290 105x51x54x21

    Omega 10810 109x55x54x23 ***

    Omega 11121 104x52x52x24

    Omega 11126 115x55x60x24

    Omega 11130 114x49x65x21

    Omega 11137 113x55x58x23

    Omega 11148 105x55x50x23

    Omega 11150 115x59x56x23

    Omega 11205 108x55x53x24

    Omega 11573 106x56x50x23

    Omega 11574 106x56x50x23

    Omega 11575 106x56x50x23

    Omega 13109 104x54x50x23

    Omega 13111 103x52x51x22

    Omega 13522 93x46x47x21 ***

    Omega 13564 96x49x47x22

    Omega 11648 105x51x54x21

    Omega 20086 88x46x42x18

    Omega 20102 121x64x57x27

    Omega 20106 135x66x67x27

    Omega 20248 128x64x64x27

    Omega 20480 132x69x63x27

    Omega 21047 73x43x30x20

    Omega 21139 118x60x58x24

    Omega 31020 113x59x54x25

    Omega 31025 113x59x54x25

    Omega 31064 113x59x54x25

    Omega 31156 115x58x57x25

    Omega 31231 111x56x55x23

    Omega 31232 112x56x56x22

    Omega 31073 109x57x52x23

    Omega 31241 110x54x56x23

    Omega 33174 103x55x48x22

    Omega 33175 107x54x53x23

    Omega 33176 106x53x53x23

    Omega 40033 88x48x40x23

    Omega 40099 100x48x52x21

    Omega 40652 106x56x50x24

    Omega 46113 110x56x54x23

    Omega 46151 110x56x54x26

    Omega 46186 108x54x54x26

    Omega 50014 90x45x45x21

    Omega 50068 73x44x29x18

    Omega 50107 125x68x67x25

    Omega 63162 103x53x50x23

    Omega 63164 104x56x48x22

    Omega 63167 109x54x55x22

    Omega 63169 114x57x57x24

    Omega 63170 114x57x57x24

    Omega 63171 92x50x42x20

    Omega 63173 92x50x42x20

    Omega 63178 112x59x53x25

    Omega 63180 113x56x57x23

    Omega 63181 108x56x52x22

    Omega 63183 94x51x43x21

    Omega 63184 97x53x54x19

    Omega 63185 100x51x49x22

    Omega 63186 105x52x53x23

    Omega 63187 109x55x54x23

    Omega 63188 107x53x54x22

    Omega 63325 101x50x51x21

    Omega 66149 111x55x56x22

    Omega 66229 105x54x51x21

    Omega 66230 110x56x54x21

    Omega 66231 112x55x57x24

    Omega 66232 112x55x57x24

    Omega 71278 114x60x54x27

    Omega 80005 111x56x55x24

    Omega 80056 100x51x49x22

    Omega 80067 109x60x49x24

    Omega 80080 112x58x54x25

    Omega 80097 106x55x51x24

    Omega 80257 95x55x40x23

    Omega 80265 105x56x49x23

    Omega 80266 105x55x50x23

    Omega 80267 104x44x49x24

    Omega 80280 109x56x53x23

    Omega 81052 106x56x50x23

    Omega 81054 111x55x56x24

    Omega 81056 100x50x50x23

    Omega 81229 106x56x50x22

    Omega 81230 109x56x53x23

    Omega 81569 109x56x53x24

    Omega 90005 105x49x56x23

    Omega 90018 103x50x53x23

    Omega 90051 93x50x43x23

    Omega 90065 100x50x50x23

    Omega 90072 104x49x55x22

    Omega 90075 95x49x46x21

    Omega 90077 98x50x48x21

    Omega 90081 104x49x55x22

    Omega 90103 114x55x59x24

    Omega 91087 104x51x53x22

    Omega 290049 121x57x64x25

    Omega 343178 111x57x54x25

    Omega 343312 115x54x61x23

    Omega 346235 112x57x55x25

    Omega 640652 106x56x50x24

    Omega 643167 110x55x55x22

    Omega 643174 104x56x48x22

    Omega 643186 106x51x55x24

    Omega 643188 110x56x54x23

    Omega 646150 112x56x56x22

    Omega 646186 108x54x54x26
  20. RyX

    RyX DoH! Staff Member

    That's a good list. Very helpful when trying to fit a new Omega knot in a reconditioned vintage or empty new handle. Thanks for sharing data @Lord Gillette!
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