Simpson knot replacement equivalent

Discussion in 'The Brush' started by Enrico, Aug 8, 2020.

  1. Enrico

    Enrico Popcorn

    So here it is ..... I recently purchased a very butterscotch Simpson Chubby 1 and it desperately needs a new knot. My question is what would you choose to re-knot? It really needs to be a 22mm or a 23mm (size limitations ..... it is what it is). BTW I'm trying to keep the traditional look of it as it was originally.

    A current pic

    I've tried a silver tip in the past and found them lacking in backbone and too soft.

    Here's what I've looked at ......

    High Mountain White from the Shave Forge
    Gelousy SHD from APShaves

    Maggards also has a few nice SHD knot I've tried.

    Thanks for you thoughts ....

  2. jimjo1031

    jimjo1031 never bloomed myself

    Two band badger...............
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  3. Enrico

    Enrico Popcorn

    I agree as to the price and quality, but leaning toward the look of the High Mountain White ..... also it's one I haven't tried.

    Yes, I've almost set in my decision, but was wonder if someone's had a bad experience with this one or a better option in their opinion.

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  4. Primotenore

    Primotenore missed opera tunity

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    Two Band, for sure. I would let Scott at Declaration Grooming put a new knot in it. You will have to remove the old knot before sending it to him.
    This brush is a keeper, correct?
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  5. brit

    brit in a box

    what about a simpson synthetic knot from one of those t-2 or 3 brushes.remove and discard the handle.i think a few members here have done that already...i love my simpson best badgers.or 2 band/finest etc..i would put a simpson knot in it though..just me.. download.jpeg
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  6. Enrico

    Enrico Popcorn

    I'm not take nothing away from Scott's fine reputation, but if I'm going to the length of removing the old knot, why would I send it to him?

    Oh ..... I see he does tie his own knots, but if I'm going to pay $140 for re-knotting I better buy myself a casket, due that SWMBO really wouldn't understand.

    And yes, it's definitely a keeper ...... so is my wife.

  7. Enrico

    Enrico Popcorn

    I'd rather stick with badger and have a feeling Simpson would cost a boat load to restore.

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  8. brit

    brit in a box

    most commodore best badger,22 mm knot brush was $60-80 depending on sales..
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  9. Sevenbark

    Sevenbark Well-Known Member

    You won’t regret doing this. You would need to confirm that he could fit that diameter hole.

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  10. Jesseix

    Jesseix Active Member

    An Envy white supreme knot could look pretty sharp in there. Strong backbone and soft tips when wet, and he has them available in smaller sizes like you’re looking for (bulb or fan I believe).
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  11. PLANofMAN

    PLANofMAN Paperboy

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    I think the Gelousy will be the closest to the original in feel, if not in looks.
  12. b1hart

    b1hart Speed Racer

    I’m still learning about badger knots.... My favorite so far has been a couple from TGN or the most recent from Envy shave. 2 were 2 band badgers, 1 was a HMW (envy shave).

    My experience with gelled badgers, many rave about them, but I never figured them out. My two examples were lather hogs, or it’s probably cause I don’t load enough soap. When I tried to overload them....they just kept blooming to a full mushroom cap, and only painting strokes released decent enough lather.

    I would also second Gary’s idea, the Simpson Trafalgar series is really good, along with the Omega EVO. I’ve sacrificed 4 so far of these handles for their knots ( two were replacing the gel knots).
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  13. Enrico

    Enrico Popcorn

    My liking is on the stronger backbone and I forgot that I had already tried a gel tip and didn't like it ...... kind of slimy feel to me. So now I look through the descriptions to see if they're Gel tipped or not.
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  14. Enrico

    Enrico Popcorn

    In addition Gel tip were definitely not what was used originally.
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  15. PLANofMAN

    PLANofMAN Paperboy

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    This is the knot I would put in it to keep the brush looking like a simpsons brush. It probably won't have as much backbone as the original, though if you set it deeper, that might solve that issue.

    Edit: they also have 24mm size as well, and the glue can be sanded to make the knot smaller.
  16. Timwcic

    Timwcic Well-Known Member

    I have a 59 that I knotted with a Envy White years ago with no regrets. It is a 28mm with set low to keep stiff but still very soft. Next to a Duke for comparison. I have also used Oumo SHD on a few vintage brushes and they are also a very good option

    Last edited: Aug 31, 2020
  17. Campion

    Campion Active Member

    I would send it to Simpsons for a 2 band SiLVERTiP knot. If cost was an issue I'd put the brush away and I'd try to save $10-$15 a week or whatever I could afford until I had the cost of the new knot. Putting a Maggard knot in that handle is like putting a VW Beetle engine in a 1966 Porsche 911.
  18. Enrico

    Enrico Popcorn

    Very funny!

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  19. jaro

    jaro Well-Known Member

    hey I have a friend who had to replace some parts on his porsche and they actually came from the VW place because they even had the same part number.. Porsche wanted several hundred dollars for a heater hose and volkswagen had the same hose with the Exact same parts numbers just a different box for like 25 dollars..
  20. Terry

    Terry Tool Admirer

    Now that's a hoot!

    Seen stuff like that for years and years.
    Especially in the food industry.


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