Thanks. The bevels on my razors were all set by very reputable sources. My hone touch ups follow their styles (tape/no tape). In retrospect, I probably did not need to buy anything other than the 12k. I bought the others to see if I could hone the 'Wagner Rat'. It is a 4/8 with a warp, and dull. I was pleasantly surprised how well it shaved when done. I asked Glen to have a look and he confirmed that I had successfully set the bevel. So far, I have avoided the road leading up to plunking down a few grand on 'rocks'.