Which is the cheapest option overtime?

Discussion in 'General Shaving Talk' started by FurryFan93, Sep 4, 2022.

  1. FurryFan93

    FurryFan93 Member

    Hey everyone, I'm back with another question. I'm wanting to know is the shave soaps and creams that require a brush alot cheaper in the end compared to barbasol? All I do when I shave with my cheiftain is do only one pass and never really do more unless I feel the need.
     
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  2. Ursa

    Ursa Well-Known Member

    How many big cans of Barbasol do you use in a year? Two? Three? If the latter, you're spending about US$6 annually on shaving cream.

    One of the most affordable options in shaving soap is Van der Hagen (VdH). A couple pucks of VdH would last me about a year for a total of about US$8 on Amazon, as would a US$10 tub of RazoRock soap.

    Even if you face-lather soap, there will be enough good lather left in your brush after your initial application for at least another pass, so being a one-pass-only shaver won't save you anything on soap.

    At the end of the day, you'll probably spend US$2-$4 more a year using affordable soaps versus Barbasol.

    Is it worth it? I think so..but you'll just have to try for yourself to know.

    That said...once you've gotten the soap and brush figured out, you can use that skillset to improve your results with Barbasol. If you're applying Barbasol straight from the can to your beard with a damp brush, you'll end up using less Barbasol than if you dispense some onto your fingertips and slather it across your face. Conversely, if you dispense Barbasol into a shaving bowl, add some water, and whip it up a bit, you'll use about the same amount, or perhaps a little more, compared to fingertip application.

    Some store-brand cans are very close copies of Barbasol, perform comparably, and cost even less to use. If your goal is to minimize the cost of shaving, you probably won't find a soap that's as cheap to use as store-brand cans.

    Back when Williams Mug Soap was available in stores, you could save some money using it versus cans, but those days are gone. At the end of the day, you'll save far more by using a DE razor than by economizing on your shave cream or soap.
     
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  3. gorgo2

    gorgo2 geezerhood

    Bar soap works for shaving, you just have to whip it good, reapply every pass, and be prepared for the drying effect most may have. That means one bar of soap is all you need, if you decide it works for you. Doesn't get much cheaper than that.

    Using body wash or liquid soap to shave is not advised.
     
  4. Bax

    Bax Well-Known Member

    I tried whipping up some regular bar soap as an experiment, Gorgo, and was surprised that it worked! That's the cheapest way to go, but you're spot-on with the drying effect of bar soap on your face. As for reducing cost, I think it'd be even CHEAPER to use a straight razor (and a couple of sheets of 3M lapping film to hone it) and never have to buy DE blades at all!
    :)
    - Bax
     
  5. PLANofMAN

    PLANofMAN Eccentric Razor Collector Staff Member

    Moderator Article Team
    When it comes to canned vs. other soaps/creams, most of us are just trying to do the best we can (for our faces, if not the environment).

    Compare Barbasol ingredients to...

    Ingredients: Water, Stearic Acid, Triethanolamine, Isobutane, Laureth-23, Sodium Lauryl Sulfate, Propane, Fragrance.

    ...Kiss my Face unscented Moisture Shave ingredients.

    Ingredients
    Aqua, Myristic Acid, Glycerin, Stearic Acid, Potassium Hydroxide, Cocos Nucifera (Coconut) Oil, Olea Europaea (Olive) Fruit Oil, Aloe Barbadensis Leaf Juice, Tocopheryl Acetate (Vitamin E/Vitamine E), Allantoin, Salvia Officinalis (Sage) Leaf Extract, Arnica Montana Flower Extract, Hydrastis Canadensis (Goldenseal) Leaf Extract, Equisetum Hyemale (Horsetail) Extract, Alchemilla Vulgaris (Lady's Mantle) Extract, Cymbopogon Schoenanthus (Lemongrass) Leaf Extract, Citrus Aurantifolia (Lime) Fruit Extract, Citrus Aurantium Dulcis (Orange) Flower Extract, Saponaria Officinalis (Soapwort) Root Extract, Nasturtium Officinale (Watercress) Leaf Extract, Hydroxyethylcellulose.

    In the long run, Barbasol is probably the cheaper option, but you could probably starve a mouse on the difference in cost between the two brands over the course of a year. A $40 triple milled soap, not so much. And you'll wind up spending about $100 on Artisan 'soft' soaps over a year, assuming you'll get 3 months use from them, and about a year for the triple-milled puck. Kiss my Face winds up being about a $1 an ounce, and at 11oz. lasts a good long while. Between 3 and 6 months probably.

    In the grand scheme of daily activities, paying on average .25 per shave (Mr. Big Spender here) isn't really a big deal to me. That's using expensive stuff, and including the brush and razor in the cost too, spread out over a few years. Just counting blades and soap, it's probably closer to 12 cents a shave.

    When you get into eternal systems like the Rolls Razor or straight razors, where blade life is counted in decades and centuries, not days, the cost per shave can drop even lower.

    So yes, you can swap out the Barbasol can for something that will be better for you and the environment. It won't be cheaper in the long run, but you'll look better at the end of it.

    Edit: the average person could skip 1 extra large mocha caramel whipped coffee treat a week to be able to afford the most expensive shave soap sold.

    The real savings is in ditching cartridges and switching to DE blades, and you've already done that.
     
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  6. DaltonGang

    DaltonGang Ol' Itchy Whiskers

  7. gorgo2

    gorgo2 geezerhood

    Bingo.

    FF93, unless you go nuts with RAD or related disorders, everything evens out eventually, cost wise. It may take a few years but most guys tend to settle on a relatively narrow band of tools and supplies and more or less stick to it.
     
  8. Ursa

    Ursa Well-Known Member

    The Yardley Cocoa Butter bar soap is the best bath soap I've encountered for shaving, and a cheap option at under US$2 a bar. Some of those little "French milled" bars of soap found in hotel rooms can be surprisingly good, too.

    It's not as straightforward to use as shaving soap, however. I'd recommend learning with RazoRock or VdH soap, then trying to replicate the results with Yardley.

    I've encountered deodourant bar soaps that are impossible to use for shaving. Irish Spring is one of them.
     
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  9. PLANofMAN

    PLANofMAN Eccentric Razor Collector Staff Member

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    In about two centuries from now I will break even. So glad I went and found "cheaper" options to cartridge razors. :p

    Alternatively, I could sell off my collection and break even instantly, perhaps even profit a bit.
     
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  10. gorgo2

    gorgo2 geezerhood

    I'll be sittin here waitin, sippin muh coffeh.
     
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  11. gorgo2

    gorgo2 geezerhood

    Seen Yardley soaps at $1.25 Tree but never looked at the ingredients. Will do so.
     
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  12. brit

    brit in a box

    i have spent a few thousand on shave gear-razors,soaps/splashes/brushes blades/accessories since i ditched carts in 2017.thankfully most of it was funded by selling the bulk of a large mostly dormant vintage model car collection.i literally turned something useless into something useful.i have now pared down my 100+ razors into a 40 ish collection of the most desirable british gillettes by sales or trades,including back ups/spares.
    with the 60+ soaps and 3500 blades stashed away i shouldn't need to buy anything for the next 10+ years,and that's a blade a day.
    if i sold the whole collection i would easily break even tomorrow,being i paid nice prices for nice clean razor sets.
    knowing what i know now i would keep 1 open comb razor with a back up and spare parts,a box of Arko sticks,and a couple of omega beech handle boars and not have to buy a thing for years.i will be a minimalist in future.
    my point for this longish ramble..i cured a 35 year struggle with rashes,ingrown hairs and discomfort by switching to DE shaving,learning a new skill/shaving technique,learned a new hobby with an interesting past,and hung out with many cool folks during the process.that is the true value to me.2 bad bets on the ponies could easily cost more.;):eatdrink047:
     
  13. DaltonGang

    DaltonGang Ol' Itchy Whiskers

    That's Pretty much all our family had used, for the past 5 years. It was under $1 a bar, before Jan 2021. Great soap. Easy on the skin.
     
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  14. Ursa

    Ursa Well-Known Member

    Dollar Tree doesn't carry the Cocoa Butter variety anymore. Your best bet there is the Yardley Shea Buttermilk...but the lather from that falls flat quicker than that of the Cocoa Butter soap.
     
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  15. lightcs1776

    lightcs1776 Well-Known Member

    A can of Barbasol around me is $1.99. I regularly purchase Captain's Choice or Sterling shave soaps, which perform better and come in a variety of scents. Captain's Choice is currently $15.99 for a 4 oz tub and Sterling is $14.25 for a 5.8 oz jar and 11.25 for a 4 oz refill puck. I find a tub of either lasts me for somewhere around 3-4 months. If I purchase 4 tubs on the high side, that is around $60 a year. If I recall correctly, I replaced canned soap about once a month, which comes to $24. So the soaps that I prefer is not as cheap as canned soap. However, there are other options that are cheaper. Arko is one that has been mentioned and a 12 stick box is going for $18.90. Each stick is 75 grams, from what I can tell, so 7.19 oz of shave soap. Cella is $35 for a kilo (2.2 pounds) block. I have some Cella and really like the soap.
     
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  16. Bax

    Bax Well-Known Member

    I don't actually track the cost of any soaps. They're all relatively cheap when you consider how long they last, and spoiling yourself a little bit with fancy schmancy soaps isn't that big a deal. If you're going to waste money on something, shaving soap is a good candidate. It's a lot cheaper than hookers, cocaine, and slow horses!
    :)
    - Bax
     
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  17. feeltheburn

    feeltheburn Well-Known Member

    If you're only doing one pass, using a smaller brush can make your soaps last longer. 16mm would be big enough to make one pass worth of lather and not waste much. Soaps might still end up being a little more expensive but probably not by a whole lot. A good soap is worth it to me though because it cuts down on irritation and I really appreciate that so I'm willing to pay a little extra for it.
     
  18. Ursa

    Ursa Well-Known Member

    That's a good point.

    I face-lather my soaps/creams and that also helps to minimize wasted product. That said, even my smallest brush will have enough lather for at least a second pass.
     
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  19. brit

    brit in a box

    2 months worth of cart refills will buy me a nice soap.well worth it..;)
     
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  20. Primotenore

    Primotenore missed opera tunity

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    Yardley English Lavender Bath Soap is Tallow based and while I don't shave with it, I do shower with it and it lathers like a champ.
     

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